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On the Death of the GOP
Organized Exploitation ^ | 02-26-2009 | Paul Kroenke

Posted on 02/26/2009 7:19:45 AM PST by aic4ever

The Grand Old Party has lost its way. It is in the wilderness with no leader and no true goal, and it is there because its authoritarian nature on social issues has led it there.

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: gopcoup; newbie; rinopurge; rinos
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To: aic4ever
BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The gop has failed because they have run away from CONSERVATISM and REAGANISM... they praise satan instead of standing up against him... and this is one of the leadership's cronies lying to us. RETURN TO REAGANISM OR WATCH AMERICA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LLS

21 posted on 02/26/2009 7:52:41 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: aic4ever
authoritarian

That seems to be the de facto epithet that gets tossed at social conservatives. It's absurd.

A social conservative has the same amount of "authority" over another citizen as any other voter. My authority -- and your authority -- is exercised at the ballot box. When I choose to vote against drug legalization, gay marriage, and abortion, I'm exercising this authority. But when a liberal-tarian chooses to vote in a different way, he too is exercising his authority. But for some odd reason, it is always the social conservative who is dubbed the "authoritarian."

Why is that?

22 posted on 02/26/2009 7:59:40 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: aic4ever

Hello! Are you there?


23 posted on 02/26/2009 8:00:19 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Old Sarge; MeekOneGOP; Darksheare; darkwing104; LUV W; MEG33

Say “HI” to the n00bie.


24 posted on 02/26/2009 8:00:50 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (It took 250 years to make the USA great and 30 days for BO to tear it down.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
Say “HI” to the n00bie.

I think he posted and split. Rather trollish!!!

25 posted on 02/26/2009 8:02:39 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Arrowhead1952; Lead Moderator

Hey, mod! We have some garbage that needs taking out!


26 posted on 02/26/2009 8:06:08 AM PST by luvie (The new Boston Tea Party is here, baby, and it's doused in barbecue sauce..Michelle Malkin)
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To: ontap
FR should be put into WAR MODE for the duration!!!

LLS

27 posted on 02/26/2009 8:06:44 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: ontap

Reading his history. He doesn’t particularly seem all that out of line. Maybe he just likes to stir up a frenzy. Pretty easy to do at FR. I notice he posted an article the day he signed up.


28 posted on 02/26/2009 8:09:59 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: aic4ever

Just checking in. I was here an hour ago. See post # 4.

You don’t know it, but Viking Kitties have been summoned. Say your prayers. You will soon be zotted.

BTTT... your premise “The Grand Old Party has lost its way” is a good arguable point. But your “authoritarian” remarks - along with your post and run approach - has earned you a zot.

Buh-Bye....


29 posted on 02/26/2009 8:16:11 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: aic4ever

Authoritarian?
Really?
And the Dems wanting to ban guns, yet again, isn’t?

On an aside AIC wouldn’t happen to stand for Alice in Chains, would it?


30 posted on 02/26/2009 8:18:26 AM PST by Darksheare (We set his head on fahr, tah burn out tha DemUns!)
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To: all the best
Being second-rate Democrats has been a disaster.

Your screed should have been the post that this original poster wasted on bandwidth. Watching our Republican representatives constantly extend a friendly hand to the communists, only to see it repulsed EVERY TIME, is disgusting. Hearing that they attend the same watering holes, after work parties and junkets as their "friends" across the aisle, portrays a serious deficit in credibility as the "opposition party."

The Republicans making nice with Democrats is like Christians appeasing Muslims; the Muslims only exist to kill or enslave the Christians. Until the mind set comes into play that this is war, non negotiable, winner take all, loser DIES with no honor and body parts scavenged by wild dogs, the Republicans are history's footnote.

31 posted on 02/26/2009 8:20:04 AM PST by Thommas
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To: iowamark
At the national level, the question is not whether you are pro-life (anti-abortion) or pro-choice (pro-abortion.) The question, first, is what is the federal/national role?

It is clear to me, that prior to Roe v Wade, the role of the national/federal gubmint was to stay out of it, and stick to its assigned duties (money, defense, fed courts, etc.) That is Scalia's originalist position and I agree with it.

At the state level, I agree that the conservative position is pro-life (anti-abortion.) But as an originalist, I am quite prepared to permit Massachusetts or California to choose a different way. That is the constitutional thing to do.

Accepting all that, some will say the conservative view should be a Constitutional amendment outlawing abortion. I agree with that process as being necessary if the feds are to intervene in the question. I personally would probably oppose such an amendment, as I think even though it would be achieved through correct Constitutional means, it would encourage the view of the Fedgov as Overlord, and I simply think in the long run, you lose more than you gain when you empower the Feds in any way.

Leave it to the states, and let the people decide. In fact, I'd support a Constitutional amendment leaving the question to the states before I'd support one banning abortion outright.

32 posted on 02/26/2009 8:31:40 AM PST by Huck (Don't vote! It only encourages them! Bye.)
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To: aic4ever

There really are no words in the language to adequately describe how poorly reasoned this piece is. You thought this was edifying in some way?


33 posted on 02/26/2009 8:33:37 AM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: aic4ever

Another gay who wants to “marry” his “partner” is my guess. They are soooo easy to spot....


34 posted on 02/26/2009 8:33:55 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: SolidWood

Yeah, all the GOP needs to do is come out for legal abortion and street drugs. We know those things are so popular with people who otherwise are committed to conservative values.

These idiots still don’t get it. It’s BECAUSE we’ve become socially liberal that we’re now becoming socialistic on economics.


35 posted on 02/26/2009 8:39:31 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: steve-b

The reason the left has spent so much time pushing social liberalism over the past 50 years is that a socially liberal society will inevitably become socialist.

There are two imaginary dream worlds that are popular today. One is the Communist Utopia. The other is the libertarian fantasy of a world awash in abortion, homosexuality, atheism, porn, and drugs, but devoutly conservative on tax & spend issues, free speech, and guns. Sorry, but both are fairy tales. Check out Canada and the despotic EU for what happens when a nation becomes “liberal” on issues of sex, abortion, and other such matters. You don’t get a “rebirth of freedom”. You get centralized, regulated, gun-grabbing, speech squelching, socialized medicine, cradle-to-grave ultimate nanny states.


36 posted on 02/26/2009 8:46:24 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: Nonstatist

You know the old joke about the guy who hated violence so much that he once killed five men in an argument about it? Well, some libertarians love freedom so much that they’re willing to empower a massive centralized national (or even extra-national) state to protect it.


37 posted on 02/26/2009 8:50:52 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: aic4ever

lost its way. It is in the wilderness with no leader and no true goal, and it is there because its authoritarian nature on social issues has led it there.

-I reject the premise. It’s big spending-big government liberalism led it there, this is just another social conservatism ‘hit-piece’.


38 posted on 02/26/2009 8:56:23 AM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: Darksheare

AIC is for Alice In Chains, yes.

The Democrats were not the subject of this particular post.

I have done nothing but rip Democrats since I started my blog over 150 posts ago.

It’s time Republicans start understanding why their thinking is wrong in terms of social issues. I did not attempt to say anyone is wrong for believing that life begins at conception, and should be protected. But to approach the issue from the standpoint that the Federal Government ought to do something about abortion is every bit as authoritarian as is the Democrats’ view on gun control.

It absolutely does not make me wrong to recognize that the Republican Party has approached moral issues from an authoritarian standpoint.

Personally being Pro Life is not wrong. Personally being anti-gay marriage because you believe it to be destabilizing to the community as a whole is not wrong.

Republicans certainly have every right to make their voice heard on these issues.

However, the time for making the control of these issues by the Federal Government a basis for a platform is long past.

These may be Liberal Talking Points to many people here, but recognize that as much as Big Government Keynesianism by the Democrats at this point is resulting in huge growth and authoritarian over-control, so do the Republicans push the same agenda in terms of social policies.

The time is beginning for We the People to take back our freedoms. This means freedoms both economically and socially.

If it hurts for many of you to hear that your authoritarian stance on social issues is the wrong approach, I’m sorry, but you’re the ones the rest of us will be leaving behind in that desert wasteland.


39 posted on 02/26/2009 8:57:50 AM PST by aic4ever
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To: aic4ever
The time is beginning for We the People to take back our freedoms. This means freedoms both economically and socially.

Can't say I disagree with you. Too many Conservatives including you and me fall into the thinking “there ought to be a law...........

But I still think many of these issues will still require a law (the fewer the better and the closer to home the better)but on the state level, not the federal. I base this on the constitution. Man needs to be restrained, capitalism needs to be restrained and govt needs to be restrained. It works better when that restraint is God.

40 posted on 02/26/2009 9:12:47 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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