Posted on 01/06/2009 11:52:38 AM PST by Kevmo
1. I am Sandra Ramsey Lines, With an adddres at... I am a former federal examiner and law enforcement officer. I began training as a forensic document examiner in 1991. I am a Certified Diplomat of Forensic Sciences, a member of the American Society of Questioned Document Examiners, a member of the Southwestern Association of Forensic Document Examiners, and a member of the Questioned Document Subcommittee of the American Society of Testing and Materials. My background and credentials are set forth in Exhibit I attached hereto.
2. I have reviewed the attached affidavit posted on the internet from Ron Polarik, [PDF] who has declined to provide his name because of a number of death threats he has received. After my review and based on my years of experience, I can state with certainty that the COLB presented on the internet by the various groups, which include the Daily Kos, the Obama Campaign, Factcheck.org and others cannot be relied upon as genuine. Mr. Polarik raises issues concerning the COLB that I can affirm. Software such as Adobe Photoshop can produce complete images or alter images that appear to be genuine; therefore, any image offered on the internet cannot be relied upon as being a copy of the authentic document.
3. Upon a cursory inspection of the internet COLB, one aspect of the image that is clearly questionable is the obliteration of the Certificate No. That number is a tracking number that would allow anyone to ask the question, Does this number refer to the Certification of Live Birth for the child Barack Hussein Obama II? It would not reveal any further personal information; therefore, there would be no justifiable reason for oliterating it.
4. In my experience as a forensic document examiner, if an original of any document exists, that is the document that must be examined to obtain a definitive finding of genuineness or non-genuineness. In this case, examination of the vault birth certificate for President-Elect Obama would lay this issue to rest once and for all.
SANDRA RAMSEY LINES Forensic Document Examiner ........ Paradise Valley, Arizona 85253
SRLines@cox.net
Former Federal Examiner Retired Law Enforcement Officer
* Identification of handwriting, hand printing, signatures, typewriting, photocopying, and printing processes
* Examination of paper, inks, stamps, seals, and other documentary evidence to determine identity, source, authenticity, and possible date
* Forensic analysis of business and medical records to determine whether there are alterations, additions, deletions, erasures, substitutions, and/or if the records were manufactured in a normal course-of-business manner
* Distinguishing forgery from genuineness
* Restoration or decipherment of erased, obliterated or hidden writing
* Expert testimony in state and federal courts, and regulatory hearings
Certified Diplomate, American Board of Forensic Document Examiners Fellow, American Academy of Forensic Sciences Member, American Society of Questioned Document Examiners Member, Southwestern Association of Forensic Document Examiners Member, American Society of Testing and Materials, Forensic Sciences Committee, and Questioned Document Subcommittee
The updated final report (the one that became EXHIBIT A) is what is posted to my blog, polarik.blogtownhall.com (and also bogusbirthcertificate.blogspot.com). I would refer others to that site.
“From what I have read, Hawaii has merely said that the original document is on file. Nothing about its content. Have you found something further on this?”
See http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/11/obama_hawaaianborn_citizen_for.html for November 3, 2008 report that Hawaii Department of Health Spokeswoman confirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii.
To be precise, when asked whether the Director’s official statment meant that Obama was born in Hawaii, the spokeswoman replied:
“Yes,” said Hawaii Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo, in both email and telephone interviews with the Tribune. “That’s what Dr. Fukino is saying.”
Thanks, Polarik.
Ping to an update.
I’ m a troll who has been here for five years, waiting for just the right moment to expose myself in such a stupid controversy?
While it may be an easy way for you to get out of having to defend your beliefs, your accusation has no foundation in reality. I’m merely tired of Free Republic being over run with laughable conspiracy theories. The idea that a candidate can get through the primaries (against the Clintons, for crying out loud!) and the general election while hiding the fact that he’s not eligible is absurd on the face of it. Even more absurd is the fact that those who promote this idea think that they can get away with spreading it without providing even a single shred of evidence in their favor.
I submit that I’m not the troll. While I certainly don’t believe you to be a troll, either, (you’re one of the more respected members here) there are a slew of newbies who have signed up since May of last year solely to spread this story, which does nothing but make FR look ridiculous. I think that those of you who have bought this garbage are merely guilty of wishful thinking.
Thanks for posting that. It’s the first I’ve seen it. I’ve seen the other stuff but not that particular quote. It does give pause that the spokesman had to say what the other person was saying because the other person didn’t really say it, that kinda thing. And, of course, there’s this big giant question of why zer0bama doesn’t just produce the document. If it’s a matter of it not being available to him then he could just file that in an affidavit in one of the 17 cases winding their way through the court system. Heck, he could even turn around and sue the Hawaii Dept of HorseHockey and put all this on them. I suppose we’ll all find out in a few days when the SCOTUS conferences on Berg v Obama, but I doubt it.
You’re a CoLB troll, not an FR troll.
From the FRONT PAGE of FR, From the FOUNDER, in the FIRST SENTENCE of the statement, you’ll find where you’ve gone wrong.
Statement by FR’s Founder:
In our continuing fight for freedom, for America and our constitution...
So, Mr. French Coward troll, quit shooting those of us who are still in the fight.
Newbie, which ought carry the greater weight, an official release on paper from the department or the hearsay from an employee working under the director? I think that is what ‘plausible deniability’ is made of, an official release contradicted by a verbal assertion by an underling. Very clintonesque I’d say, very deceitful.
Im merely tired of Free Republic being over run with laughable conspiracy theories.
***You’re completely full of Bovine Feces. There have been tons of conspiracy theories in the past, including ChemTrails, Vince Foster, Monica Lewinsky, etc. If you don’t like it, stay the heck off the threads. Instead, you’re actively trying to discourage constitutionalists on this constitutional website. You’re a FReeping Coward. This issue has 5 concurrent cases before SCOTUS, and our own resident constitutional scholar, Congressman Billybob, says the chances of one case being forwarded for conference is 1/200. So the chances of the issue being forwarded 3 times is 1/8M, but there’s more: Berg v Obama has been forwarded twice so we are in the 1/1.6Billion range. Name ONE other issue that this has happened with. You can’t. Are you going to be accusing the SCOTUS of engaging in a laughable conspiracy theory? YOU ARE A TROLL. GET LOST.
The idea that a candidate can get through the primaries (against the Clintons, for crying out loud!) and the general election while hiding the fact that hes not eligible is absurd on the face of it.
***You don’t know your constitution. 20th Amendment, the PRESIDENT ELECT may fail to qualify. Why don’t you even BOTHER to try to come up to speed, troll?
Even more absurd is the fact that those who promote this idea think that they can get away with spreading it without providing even a single shred of evidence in their favor.
***More bovine feces. Read Polarik’s 160 page report. Read the 17 lawsuits winding their way through the court system. “One single shred of evidence” — that right there is proof that you are a troll.
I submit that Im not the troll.
**I’d be more than happy to have it settled. Feel free to find the Free Republic definition of troll and tell us how it does not apply to you. In the meantime, quit trolling these threads.
While I certainly dont believe you to be a troll, either, (youre one of the more respected members here) there are a slew of newbies who have signed up since May of last year solely to spread this story, which does nothing but make FR look ridiculous.
***Bull Shiite. Do the math. 1/1.6BILLION odds. 17 concurrent cases. None of the other conspiracy issues ever got this much legitimacy. This is a constitutionalist website and if you aren’t up to speed on simple constitutional principles then you should simply go into lurker mode because you are acting as a troll.
I think that those of you who have bought this garbage are merely guilty of wishful thinking.
***Merely? Why do you log onto a constitutionalist website and actively seek to discourage those who are defending the constitution? Who the gentle caress do you think you are?
You’re not fighting for the constitution when you are spreading this conspiracy theory. You are engaing in wishful thinking.
I wish Obama wasn’t going to be president, too, but the reality is that he will be taking the oath on January 20. We can either use what little sway we have in Washington to block Obama’s radical agenda (thank God we’ve kept the Dems from getting 60 senators, but it’s still going to be tough to keep every Republican in line on a lot of stuff), or we can get distracted by useless conspiracy theories. That’s why there are so many of these newbies (including Polarik). They want to keep us distracted because FR has proven effective in the past.
Get proof
***Get Lost, n00b troll. lj,here’s one for your list. Where is the list located? Send me a freepmail and I’ll post it at bar of integrity.
Youre not fighting for the constitution
***Bull Shite. You sure as heck aren’t fighting for the constituion, troll.
Whom has appointed you the defender of FreeRepublic’s reputation? There is a brown tint to your nose, connected to the Obamessiah, but it has a distinctly nasty smell.
Thank you for the ping!
Buckhead is not Buckhead’s real name either. And it has been proved over and over and over again that the state of HI did NOT vouch for the COLB posted on various websites. All they did was say that they have a valid birth cert. Not what is says, not where he was born, and not that it agrees with the one posted on websites.
What you are asserting is a lie, and by repeating it, you are revealing yourself to be a troll who:
1. Is totally ignorant and reads nothing and doesn’t care
Or
2. Knows you are lying and are doing so do push an agenda.
You don’t belong on FR.
And the Bush administration blew up the Twin Towers.
I get already!
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