Darwinism and the Dehumanization of Us All

From Sea to Shining Sea ^ | 1/6/09 | Purple Mountains

[PurpleMountains]

In my last post on Darwinism and on the evils that have flowed from its tenets, I received many comments from people who disagreed with me on the merits – and also from those who felt it was foolish to blame Darwinism for some of the major evils in the world. Some had never considered the connection, and others thought that there was no connection between Darwinism and such occurrences as the deliberate starvation of millions of Russian peasants or the slaughter of six million Jews by Hitler. Some who commented were driven to absolute distraction that anyone would question Darwinism or make these connections.

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

“Eugenics and other Evils,” by G.K. Chesterton
“From Darwin to Hitler,” by Richard Weikart

Two good reads.

[freedumb2003]

Yes- mathematics was used to create the V2 rocket, so the mathematicians are to blame for the resurgence of Naziism.

And physics, chemistry, and biology were certainly used against the Jews — so we must hold physicists, chemists and the evil biologists to blame for the evils perpetrated on the Jews.

Good thing we got rid of them — silly things like disease must give way to emotional arguments. No need to try to end Tay Sachs — research being perpetrated by the evil medical scientists who use the same techniques as dr. mengila must be discarded as eeevil.

[SumProVita]

Very good post! The movie, EXPELLED, point out just how Darwinism has become tyrannical in the scientific fields....which overflows into other aspects of our lives.

It’s interesting how some people want to make a god of science and yet fail to see how good science seems to confirm the existence of a very wise Creator.

[JudgemAll]

God is not an activist and nor is good science. Darwinism is the activist branch of Darwin and opposes all, ie. God, good science and even Darwin himself. It won’t stop those pseudo-science witches from ridiculing themselves. They cannot even understand what is being said.

[SumProVita]

“Darwinism is the activist branch of Darwin and opposes all, ie. God, good science...”

You are correct. It is totally unthinking. It’s very sad to see honest inquiry forbidden.

[seatrout]

[TalonDJ]

Yes- mathematics was used to create the V2 rocket

Sure, but math was not used as the justification for slaughter. Therein lies the difference.

[Realism]

Past Religious wars (Alphabetical)
Confucianism vs. Taoism, Mongol invasion of Western China, 1205-1209 CE
Confucianism vs. Taoism, Mongol invasion of Northern China, 1211-1234 CE
Confucianism vs. Islam, Mongol invasion of Central Asia, 1218-1220 CE
Confucianism vs. Islam, Mongol invasion of Baghdad, 1258
Confucianism vs. Buddhism, Mongol invasions of Vietnam, 1258-1285
Confucianism vs. Shinto, Mongol invasions of Japan, 1274-1281
Confucianism vs. Taoism, Mongol invasions of Southern China, 1279
Confucianism vs. Christianity, Mongol invasion of Hungary, 1285
Confucianism vs. Christianity, Mongol raid against Bulgaria, 1285
Confucianism vs. Christianity, Mongol raid against Poland,1287
Confucianism vs. Buddhism, Mongol invasion of Vietnam, 1288
Confucianism vs. Islam, Mongol invasion of Syria, 1299

Christianity vs. Zoroastrianism, Roman-Persian Wars, Mespotamia and Modern Turkey, 502-562 CE
Christianity vs. Islam, Byzantine-Arab Wars, Modern Lebanon and Turkey, 632-750 CE
Christianity vs. Islam, Umayyad Conquest of Iberia, Modern Spain and Portugal, 711-718 CE
Christianity vs. Islam , History of Islam in Southern Italy, Sicily and Southern Italian Peninsula, 831-902 CE
Christianity vs. Islam and Judaism, Reconquista, Iberian Peninsula, 923-1212 CE
Christianity vs. Islam, Crusades, Middle East, 1091-1402 CE
Christianity vs. Judaism, German Crusade, Germany, 1096 CE
Christianity vs. Confucianism, Mongol invasion of Hungary, 1285
Christianity vs. Confucianism, Mongol raid against Bulgaria, 1285
Christianity vs. Confucianism, Mongol raid against Poland,1287
Christianity vs. Indigenous Beliefs, European colonization of the Americas, The Americas, 1492-1890 CE
Catholicism vs. Eastern Orthodoxy, Fourth Crusade, Balkans-Greece and Anatolia, 1201-1204 CE
Catholicism vs. Protestantism, Wars of Religion, France, 1560-1598 CE
Catholicism vs. Protestantism, Thirty Years War, Western Europe, 1618-1648 CE
Protestantism vs. Catholicism, The Troubles, Ireland, 1609-1998 CE

Hinduism vs. Zoroastrianism, Seleucid Invasion of India, Indus River, 304 BCE
Hinduism vs. Pantheism, Battle of the Hydaspes River, Indus River, 326 BCE
Hinduism vs. Islam, Muslim conquest in the Indian subcontinent, 664-712 CE

Islam vs. Pantheism, Wars of Arabian Unification, See(Muhammad as a general), Arabia, 622-632 CE
Islam vs. Christianity, Byzantine-Arab Wars, Modern Lebanon and Turkey, 632-750 CE
Islam vs. Zoroastrianism, Islamic conquest of Persia, Modern Iran, 637-651 CE
Islam vs. Hinduism, Muslim conquest in the Indian subcontinent, 664-712 CE
Islam vs. Christianity, Umayyad Conquest of Iberia, Modern Spain and Portugal, 711-718 CE
Islam vs. Christianity, History of Islam in Southern Italy, Sicily and Southern Italian Peninsula, 831-902 CE
Islam vs. Christianity, Reconquista, Iberian Peninsula, 923-1212 CE
Islam vs. Christianity, The Crusades, The Middle East, 1091-1402 CE
Islam vs. Confucianism, Mongol invasion of Central Asia, 1218-1220 CE
Islam vs. Confucianism, Mongol invasion of Baghdad, 1258
Shi’ism vs. Kharijism, Battle of Nahrawan, Mesopotamia, 657 CE
Sunnism vs. Shi’ism, First Fitna, Arabia and Mesopotamia, 656-661 CE
Sunnism vs. Shi’ism, Second Fitna, Arabia and Mesopotamia, 683-692 CE
Sunnism vs. Shi’ism, Iraqi Civil War, Iraq, 2004 CE-ongoing

Judaism vs. Pantheism, Great Jewish Revolt, Levant, 66-135 CE
Judaism vs. Christianity, Reconquista, Iberian Peninsula, 923-1212 CE
Judaism vs. Christianity, German Crusade, Germany, 1096 CE

Shinto vs. Confucianism, Mongol invasions of Japan, 1274-1281

Taoism vs. Confucianism, Mongol invasion of Western China, 1205-1209 CE
Taoism vs. Confucianism, Mongol invasion of Northern China, 1211-1234 CE
Taoism vs. Confucianism, Mongol invasions of Southern China, 1279

Zoroastrianism vs. Hinduism, Seleucid Invasion of India, Indus River, 304 BCE
Zoroastrianism vs. Christianity, Roman-Persian Wars, Mespotamia and Modern Turkey, 502-562 CE
Zoroastrianism vs. Islam, Islamic conquest of Persia, Modern Iran, 637-651 CE

[MEGoody]

I see what is going on with the global warming fiasco, and how dissenting opinions are pooh poohed as not being scientifically sound. I see outright opponents and mere questioners of the global warming theory being treated in ways meant to humiliate and degrade, all in an effort to discredit them.

Then I remember that is exactly what is done to those who dare to question the theory of evolution.

Those who claim to be scientifically minded should be ashamed of themselves when they behave in such a fashion.

[Marauder]

It’s very sad to see honest inquiry forbidden.

Just turn it back on them: The next time you argue with an uber-Darwinist, ask them to prove how speciation occurs.

[seatrout]

Many of those conflicts were political (power rivalries, territorial expansion etc.) with, at best, a religious veneer. In the Thirty Years War, for example, France, the leading Catholic power in Europe (and governed de facto by Cardinal Richelieu) was allied with the Protestant powers of central Europe and against the catholic Austro-Spanish Habsburg dynasty, whose power France wished to check. As for "Christianity vs. Indigenous Beliefs, European colonization of the Americas, The Americas, 1492-1890 CE", that was old-fashioned colonial expansion on a truly epic scale. Ditto the Mongol wars of the 13th Century.

[Realism]

“Many of those conflicts were political(power rivalries, territorial expansion etc.)”

I agree, but in most of those cases religious rivalry was used as a method of rallying the population to war.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

It might be said that “two wrongs don’t make a right” applies in this situation. The wrongs of religion vs. the wrongs of anti-religion.

The first wrong was assigned to religion, and is seen clearly in the institution of marriage. In human history, marriage has been sponsored and ritualized by religion. But to some extent, it was also corrupted by cultural modifications, such as arranged marriages and dowry.

To the anti-religious, this made marriage abhorrent, and their assumption was that marriage was just a religious convention, with no other value. So they sought, and still seek, to dispense with marriage, or at least destroy it as an institution. In turn, they want to replace marriage with “just” biological reproduction, like animals use to procreate.

What they never considered was that marriage has a very important biological value as well. That it is done because it is far superior to “just” biological reproduction. That it has purposes beyond religion.

Marriage provides the man with the societal enforced promise that his children are his own. For her part, marriage promises the woman that the father will provide for and help her raise her children. And the benefits to the children are obvious. All of these are tangible biological reasons for monogamous marriage.

But this is missed by the anti-religious, who have created any amount of trouble for people by disabusing marriage.

So how does this relate to Darwinism? Simple. The anti-religious want to deconstruct religion, because they think it to be random fantasy without any real underpinnings. They do not realize that religion has very tangible reasons, which if they are forsaken, lead to horrific tragedy, violence and suffering.

[Realism]

“They do not realize that religion has very tangible reasons, which if they are forsaken, lead to horrific tragedy, violence and suffering.”

The problem is (and I hate to say it) separation of church and state. Marriage crosses the boundary between a religious ceremonial custom, a common vow to unification, and state law with all that is attributed to the law.

[techno]

Darwinism has to be separated from the plant world and the animal world from the human world. Frankly I don’t really care how plants and animals originated. All I know is that we inhale oxygen and breathe out carbon dioxide and the plants use this CO2 in a process called photosynthesis to produce oxygen which we breathe in-I think you get the idea. As for animals, there is a pecking order where they kill each other mercilessly-a natural exercise in bloodlust. I have not sat up nights questioning why: I accept it and live my human life. But what Darwinism has tried to do is claim that human beings are no better than animals in their pugnacity and their thirst for blood and no better than plants implying they are zombies just taking up space as they breathe in oxygen and exhale CO2. It is in the dehumanization of human beings that has deeply influenced the ideologies of Hitler, Stalin and Obama. If the life of one human being is not worth anything, it is easy to extrapolate that the life of a hundred, thousand, million or tens of millions are not worth anything either. Why is abortion countenanced in huge numbers? Life is not considered sacred. Darwinism has had its part to play in this evolution of human thought over the last 150 years.

[Realism]

“Life is not considered sacred.”

LIFE - The condition that distinguishes organisms from inorganic objects and dead organisms, being manifested by growth through metabolism, reproduction, and the power of adaptation to environment through changes originating internally.

Like you, people have differing views of what “life” is and to what extent it should be protected.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

I think it precedes the idea of the separation of church and state, going all the way back to the Protestant Reformation, through the Enlightenment, the Industrial Revolution and the philosophies that evolved within them.

In truth, religion had become so interwoven with the state and the cultures it belonged to, that it is no surprise that the bitter reaction to bad practices came about and lasted so long—and kept such animosity against religion.

Only with the Counter Reformation, when the religions and their followers themselves rejected the corruptions of their doctrines and reformed, again, as in the case of marriage, rejecting both forced marriages and dowry, did they emerge from the objectionable problems. By then, the religious and secular split was permanent.

However, in the process, the social enforcement of marriage was lost, so soon had to be replicated by the secular state. This is why today we have common divorce, but also have alimony and child support (and while eventually we will have child DNA certification, to insure fathers that they are indeed the fathers.) And only then will the courts duplicate the biological advantages of marriage.

And all because, what had been a good idea since time immemorial, had been perverted and corrupted by other motives.

[Realism]

Many “rules” handed down by religion in my opinion have little to do with worship or faith. They have been created and enforced by religion to protect the health, welfare and safety of our civilization. The Commandments for example are for the most part are a set of basic common rules everyone should follow.

[Coyoteman]

Then I remember that is exactly what is done to those who dare to question the theory of evolution.

Those who claim to be scientifically minded should be ashamed of themselves when they behave in such a fashion.

Science relies on evidence, not "divine" revelation and scripture.

Bring evidence if you want to influence science.