Posted on 12/13/2008 3:17:20 PM PST by mainestategop
December 8th was the anniversary of the death of Beatle John Lenon. Most of the world mourned the death of this man for his music but most of all for his views or I should say imagination. Well if we understood more about who he was and what he imagined, we would be celebrating rather mourning. Why? John's views were hostile towards the American ideals of individualism freedom and liberty and supportive of worldwide despotic communism at the hands of the New World order. His song Imagine was nothing more than a call for the destruction of America and religion and unity under a world wide socialist dictatorship.
We are already well on our way there. America, the last vestige of any kind of individual liberty is crumbling before our eyes. The past 18 years alone has seen the growth of tyranny of government and the loss of constitutional liberties. We are paying more and more for less and less for those who won't work, we are seeing our rights trampled on while criminals get away with murder, we see our business system crumble and give way to outsourcing, illegal immigrant job theft, over regulation and over taxation. Our morals have also taken a nose dive. Prop 8 may have passed in California and we may be taking back ground in some places but its still happening elsewhere. The values of the left that came about through the British invation and the hippies lead the way downhill.
Let us disect the meaning of the lyrics of Imagine and let us examined what Lennon stood for. John Lennon as we know was no friend of ours. Lennon was an open and avowed marxist who expressed his hatred for America and freedom and for America's independance. He is also notorious for airing blasphemy against Christ and the bible. He even faced deportation.
The song Imagine expresses just what he stood for:
Imagine there's no heaven, its easy if you try, no hell below us, above us only sky, imagine all the people, living for today.
In other words, imagine we were not accountable to a supreme being for our actions. Imagine we could go around doing drugs, getting drunk, commiting murder and other evil acts not to mention squandering our futures and our children's futures. Imagine living only for today! Well if there were no God we were accountable we could and avoid the consequences. Well, we ARE accountable to God for what we do in this life. We are required to protect the weak and down trodden, to safeguard liberty, to uphold the value of human life and leave this world as good as if not a better place than before to our descendants. Instead we now have an upayable debt, a nation that is becoming weaker and its all because we are living for today.
Imagine there's no countries, It isn't hard to do, nothing to kill or die for no religion too. Imagine all the people living life in peace
Imagine no countries. What is a country? A country is defined as a soverign and independant nation. Our country, is not just that but more, it used to be a nation of sovereign and independant individuals! Not anymore. We are no longer independant citizens but becoming world citizens of a worldwide collective. Not a very good one at that. Lennon also makes the mistake of believing that we have wars because of nationalism and religion. That can be a factor but if we look back that isn't the case. In the beginning in the days of Cain and Abel there certainly weren't any major differences like religion or countries, that didn't stop Cain from commiting the first murder.
The soviet Union was one big country without religion yet the governemt killed many people and many people died. Hardly anyone lived life in peace there. So atheism once again proves to be flawed as with Lennon's views.
Imagine no possesions I wonder if you can No need for greed no hunger A brotherhood of man Imagine all the people sharing all the world
You can say that Im a dreamer but Im not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will live as one
Imagine no possesions. More like a worldwide collective where the state owns everything and everyone. Just like what Lennon advocates. Ironically Lennon was worth a ton of money when he died so he never practiced what he preached.
Lennon was criticized for his wealth during his Playboy interview but defended himself by pointing out how difficult it is to leave a materialist world behind once you are caught up in it and comparing this to leaving the Beatles:
PLAYBOY: "Why does anyone need $150,000,000? Couldn't you be perfectly content with $100,000,000? Or $1,000,000?"
LENNON: "What would you suggest I do? Give everything away and walk the streets? The Buddhist says 'get rid of the possessions of the mind'. Walking away from all the money would not accomplish that. It's like the Beatles. I couldn't walk away from the Beatles. That's one possession that's still tagging along, right? If I walk away from one house or 400 houses, I'm not gonna escape it."
Then there is his call for a brotherhood of man, where the world is one. Now I would have no problem with that if only the world government that they want us to submit to wasn't so anti freedom and anti Christ. The other problem is man's sinful and fallen nature that hinders this desire. No matter what the left does to obtain utopia on earth it is always a failure.
John Lennon wasn't a Beetle, he was a locust and I imagine there's no leftists, no atheism too where people live life in peace. Thanks to leftists like John Lennon and those who followed him who even now occupy our places of power, we have no peace. Posted by mainestategop at 6:00 PM Labels: atheism, beatles, communism, fascism, hypocrisy, imagine, johnlennon, leftists, liberals, marxism, nwo, terrorism
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Eff John Lenon bump!
> LENNON: “What would you suggest I do? Give everything away and walk the streets?
Why...yes! Typical of these loony libs. Just like lefty actors who promised to leave the U.S. once W won (twice), they are still here. Anybody hear of the new lib mantra: “do as I say, not as I do.”?
“What kind of country is this wbere John Lennon gets six bullets in the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one effing bullet. Explain that to me.” - Dennis Leary
thought he was a jerk later on, mostly during his solo/Ono period.
I always had a love hate relationship with him. isn't it good, Norwegian wood.
I have always thought that Yoko walking away without a scratch was proof positive that life is not fair.
I don’t know why anyone would look up to him.
John Lennon was so overrated as a musician. Neither his guitar work or songs have lasted for me. He treated his first wife and son poorly as well, but many fine musicians behaved badly with respect to their families.
John Lennon was a self-centered elitist like many of his generation. All YOU need is love. Me, I’ll sit here rolling in the dough.
And his songs are crap in the first degree. That is if you’re not stoned out of your gourd. Then anything is music.
Just as long as Iron Maiden would have still been around.
After that, I just don’t care about Lennon.
Or maybe she thought death was a good career move for John, if you know what I mean.
In Lennon’s defense: in his last years, he did extricate his head somewhat from his posterior. When asked for the September 29th, 1980 edition of Newsweek about his earlier political radicalism, Lennon said:
“That radicalism was phony, really, because it was out of guilt. I’d always felt guilty that I made money, so I had to give it away or lose it. I don’t mean I was a hypocrite. When I believe, I believe right down to the roots. But being a chameleon, I became whoever I was with. When you stop and think, what the hell was I doing fighting the American Government just because Jerry Rubin couldn’t get what he always wanted - a nice cushy job.”
So Lennon did manage in the end to grow up, at least a little.
‘his songs are crap..”
ok, you don’t like him personally
But that is, without a doubt, the dopiest statement I have ever seen on FR.
Eff you bump!
Well his solo stuff pretty much was crap.
Actually, whether or not we like to admit it, Lennon and the rest of the Beatles probably made a bigger impression on the world than any politician of the time. As to whethewr or not the impression was a good one could be the subject of another thread.
IMAGINE WHIRLED PEAS
Ahhhhhh....thank you for the suggestion. Imagining no John Lennon always puts a smile on my face.
I don’t remember which of his albums it was but I remember a review of it that contained the following line: “Sometimes political messages don’t work, even in the hands of John Lennon. Or, should we say, especially in the hands of John Lennon.”
As songwriters, he and Paul were better together than apart.
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