Posted on 06/22/2008 2:03:51 PM PDT by WilliamReading
ollowing up on previous posts in the past couple of days about Barack Obama’s “birth certificate,” here and here, I became more curious about Barack’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (known as “Ann”), and spent several hours reading about her. In particular, I was searching for information about the circumstances surrounding Barack’s birth.
It seems reasonable to ask at this point: Is it possible that Barack Obama, Ann’s son, was born someplace besides Honolulu?
Here’s a rough sketch of what I’ve pieced together so far based on information available on the Internet, but I could use some help filling in the blanks. Questions are presented at the end.
Spring/Summer 1960 – Ann Dunham, at the age of 17, moves with her parents from Mercer Island, Washington following her high school graduation, to Honolulu Hawaii, where her father, Stanley, has a new sales job in a furniture store.
Fall 1960– Ann starts classes at the Univ. of Hawaii’s East West Centre, a well known center of leftist thought, and shortly thereafter meets Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan student, in a Russian language class.
Oct/Nov. 1960– Barack Obama Jr. is conceived.
Dec. 1960/Jan. 1961– Ann, now 18 years old, and Obama announce to their families plans to marry. Both the Dunham and Obama parents are unhappy with the news. By this time Ann’s mother Madelyn Dunham has become a bank president in Honolulu.
Feb. 1961– Ann reportedly marries Obama Sr., but it’s unclear where this took place, who was present, and whether the marriage is documented.
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Aug. 4 1961– Ann gives birth to Barack Obama Jr.
Late Aug. 1961– Ann visits high school friends on Mercer Island with newly born baby Barack.
My QUESTIONS at this time focus on the circumstances surrounding Barack’s birth:
1. Where did Ann Dunham live while she was pregnant with Barack, especially the 6 months from Feb. to Aug. 1961? Reportedly her parents were embarrassed and upset about her pregnancy. Obama Sr. was reportedly living in a dorm at the time.
2. Where did Ann deliver Barack? His “birth certificate” doesn’t say, and I guess he’s lost the original? (Although, it’s very interesting to note that Obama provides details of his birth weight in Dreams From My Father — where did that info come from?) Wikipedia and other sources say that Barack was born at Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu, but are there any records of this?
3. Why does Barack’s “certification of birth” say “Date Filed” at the bottom, when the other Honolulu birth certificate on the same form that we found says “Date Accepted”? (See them both here.)
4. Is it possible that Barack was born someplace outside Honolulu, perhaps someplace outside the country (maybe someplace closer than Kenya), and that Ann applied for a “late arrival” birth certificate after-the-fact, which the State of Hawaii apparently allows under certain circumstances?
5. Is it possible that leftist/Marxist foreign friends of Ann’s at the Univ. of Hawaii referred her to a location outside the US to complete her pregnancy and deliver her baby?
(Fascinating side-note: Ann became a serious student of Communist and Marxist theories back in high school thanks to some radical teachers and administrators at Mercer High).
6. Did Ann drop out of the University when she was pregnant? If so, for how long?
7. Does the fact that Ann was a minor when Barack was conceived relate to these events? What was the legal age for getting married in Hawaii in 1961?
8. Who was with Ann at the time she delivered Barack? Parents, Obama Sr., both?
9. Why did Ann travel to Mercer Island with her newborn, and did Obama Sr. or her mother accompany her?
10. Why hasn’t the Obama campaign made Ann’s mother and Barack’s grandmother, Madelyn Dunham (now 84), available? Don’t presidential candidates at least minimally introduce immediate relatives to the general public? It seems that Obama is treating his grandmother like a big mystery.
11. Why did Barack Obama make a big to-do about, and act as CO-SPONSOR for, legislation in early 08 that was introduced by his supporter Claire McCaskill resolving questions about McCain’s eligibility to be President? Is it true (as a reader commented) that “the bill that Obama wanted didn’t have the military part in it” — meaning that Obama favored a law that would allow any citizen born outside the US to be eligible for POTUS? Why did McCaskill, rather than a Republican, introduce this legislation?
NOTE: Some readers are confused. Citizenship is NOT the issue here (although some have suggested that Obama has dual citizenship). The issue here is eligibility to be President based on the constitutional requirement that the President be natural-born
Obama's a phony fake fraud who wouldn't have been elected barber shop inspector in a sane world.
This is a false trail and probably not worth pursuing.Obama is replicating the successful 'bimbo eruption" strategy of the CLintons -- using minor peccadillos to conceal the genuinely reproachable defects in the candidate.
I buried Paul.
Obama can put an end to the speculation today by releasing a certified copy of his birth certificate. If he can find a copy of his parent’s marriage license, that would be the icing on the cake.
And he can keep it going by not releasing it.
That's my point.
Now let's talk about how Obama is in favor of killing babies even as they are being born — shocking but true.
The birth of the Anointed One, and his virgin mother are not subjects for debate, all you have to know is that because he was born on Planet Earth he is automatically going to win the presidency of the world.....
Number 11 is one thing I do find interesting, and have raised the same supposition on an earlier thread. I don’t trust dems, and their very involvement in the McPain issue is curious!
I cannot recall the exact story Obama told about his parents meeting and getting married after the Selma march....and did he not say that allowed him to be born.. or some looney thing like that.. even tho he was born prior to the march..as I recall
Feb. 1961– Ann reportedly marries Obama Sr., but it’s unclear where this took place, who was present, and whether the marriage is documented
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Polygamy ??? “Spiritual wife” ???
He was already married in Kenya wasnt he ???
Where did Ann Dunham live while she was pregnant with Barack, especially the 6 months from Feb. to Aug. 1961?
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Probably a “home” for unmarried pregnant teens..
Or sent to an aunt somewhere..
Out-of-wedlock births were hidden in those days..
Why hasn’t the Obama campaign made Ann’s mother and Barack’s grandmother, Madelyn Dunham (now 84), available?
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I think his Mom is dead..
And grandma is.......white...
Listen to that phony southern accent that Obama puts on in front of the black audience (Barack also comes from the south, South Honolulu).
Where are all the “Freedom on Information” hacks now?
So what does anyone really know for sure? Very little.
There is something just wrong about the lack of a birth certificate. Maybe the Messiah’s team is holding on to it to drop it as a A HA at some point. If that’s not the case, well, there’s another reason the big O might just be a false Messiah.
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