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Florida Court: It's OK to Look up a Woman's Skirt with a Mirror, as Long as It's a Public Place
GlennSacks.com ^ | 5/20/08 | Glenn Sacks

Posted on 05/20/2008 12:27:15 PM PDT by PercivalWalks

"Former teacher Brian Presken, 32, was accused of using a mirror to look under a woman's skirt last summer at Barnes & Noble Booksellers on Airport Boulevard in Pensacola.

"Defense attorney Katheryne Snowden argued that the voyeurism charge should be dropped because Presken's accuser didn't have a reasonable expectation of privacy in a public place under Florida law.

"The law under which Presken was charged states, 'It is illegal to secretly observe someone with lewd, lascivious and indecent intent in a dwelling, structure or conveyance, and when such locations provide a reasonable expectation of privacy.'

"Snowden said the statute her client is charged under — 810.14 — doesn't define the phrase 'reasonable expectation of privacy.'

"Judge George J. Roark III agreed and dismissed the charge Friday afternoon."

The feminists are up in arms over this case, and at least as it is explained in this newspaper article, I can't blame them. A woman goes to a Barnes & Noble bookstore, a man apparently uses a mirror to look under her skirt, and his attorney argues that it's okay because she was in a public place and thus "didn't have a reasonable expectation of privacy"?!

That is an outrageous claim, but defense attorneys say all sorts of things, so I don't worry about that too much. What is troublesome is that the judge agreed and dismissed the charges. Do they really expect us to believe that just because a woman is in a public place it is okay to use a mirror to look up her skirt?

Another interesting part of the story is this -- "Assistant State Attorney Greg Marcille said the ruling will not be appealed. 'We intend to ask the Legislature in next year's session to consider amending the statute to cover situations such as what occurred in this case.'"

Here we have a quirk in the law, and the legislature will probably fix it ASAP. While I would agree with Marcille in this case, it shows you what good politics feminism is, and how quickly legislators and officials often respond to women's concerns. The full article is Voyeurism charge tossed (Pensacola News Journal, 5/17/08).

Vanessa Valenti of www.feministing.com wrote about this decision with considerable dissatisfaction in her recent blog post 'Peeping Toms' gain popularity in the courts.

Glenn Sacks, www.GlennSacks.com

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: feminism; perverts; ruling; voyeurism
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1 posted on 05/20/2008 12:27:19 PM PDT by PercivalWalks
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To: PercivalWalks

Seems to me that every woman should expect to have the under-side of her skirt perceived as providing “a reasonable expectation of privacy”. Sheesh!

Methinks the judge is a maroon.


2 posted on 05/20/2008 12:30:14 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: PercivalWalks

Is it ok to pretend to drop your change and take peek as you are picking it up?

Movie reference - John Candy in Splash.


3 posted on 05/20/2008 12:30:29 PM PDT by DManA
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To: PercivalWalks

A judge that follows the law ? Snow sighted in hell !


4 posted on 05/20/2008 12:32:32 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: PercivalWalks
In other news..... Former President Bill Clinton will be traveling to Florida to campaign....just as soon as he buys a mirror and some duct tape.
5 posted on 05/20/2008 12:33:30 PM PDT by txroadkill (Liberals believe that the only oppressed people in Cuba are the terrorist in GitMo)
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To: PercivalWalks

Isn’t there something about ‘your space ends where the next person’s begins.’ ?? The pervs have all the rights? GeezLouise.


6 posted on 05/20/2008 12:33:52 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: PercivalWalks

Then it should be OK to shove the mirror down the guy’s throat.


7 posted on 05/20/2008 12:34:39 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: PercivalWalks

No expectation of privacy under your skirt, huh? Well then, I guess it’s ok to grab a video camera, mirror, and start uploading upskirt vids to youtube for the world to see! The perverts are going to go nuts with this ruling. Thanks your honor.


8 posted on 05/20/2008 12:34:47 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: Slings and Arrows

Nice beaver!


9 posted on 05/20/2008 12:38:13 PM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: pissant

Good news for you!


10 posted on 05/20/2008 12:39:09 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: PercivalWalks

I would think the fact that she is wearing a skirt means that she expects some privacy, otherwise just go shopping in your underwear.
bonehead judge...


11 posted on 05/20/2008 12:39:41 PM PDT by AprilfromTexas
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To: stylin19a

If by “follows the law” you mean “reinterprets ‘reasonable expectation of privacy’ to mean ‘no expectation of privacy under your own clothes,’” then yes, he “followed the law.” In reality, he’s just another idiot judge who creatively interprets the law in whatever way is necessary to let the maximum number of perverts off the hook. No reasonable person would say that you have no reasonable expectation of privacy under your own clothes. If that’s true then it shouldn’t be illegal to go around lifting up skirts intentionally, as long as the person’s body is not touched. The problem is most judges don’t seem to be reasonable people.


12 posted on 05/20/2008 12:40:34 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: PercivalWalks

“Shoe mirrors!” (Peewee Herman)


13 posted on 05/20/2008 12:44:32 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: KoRn

14 posted on 05/20/2008 12:45:09 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)
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To: KoRn
Nice beaver!

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Thanks, I just had it stuffed this morning.

15 posted on 05/20/2008 12:45:58 PM PDT by txroadkill (Liberals believe that the only oppressed people in Cuba are the terrorist in GitMo)
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To: KoRn
Nice beaver!

Priscilla: "I just had it stuffed!"

16 posted on 05/20/2008 12:48:16 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (You're gonna cry 96 Tears on my Pillow!)
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To: PercivalWalks

I see a whole new underwear line for the conservative entrepreneur.

First, black or brown underwear, not see through.

Second, a hand with a middle finger raised.

Third, they come with various comments: “If you can see this finger, you’re a perv.” “You’ll never get in here.” And the ever favorite: “F#ck You Loser.”

And for the real special occassion, shiny metallic ones that mirror back the perv’s mirror.


17 posted on 05/20/2008 12:48:16 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: KoRn; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ...
Nice beaver!

Hit it!


18 posted on 05/20/2008 12:49:44 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Code Pink should guard against creating stereotypes in the Mincing Community." --Titan Magroyne)
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To: PercivalWalks; Xenalyte; DollyCali; Allegra

Waaaalllll - hold my beer...


19 posted on 05/20/2008 12:52:31 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: messierhunter
It's up to the legislature to change a bad or ambiguous law.
or charge the perp under a law that applies.

Do I get to take pictures of lady wearing a see-thru blouse with no bra, while she's in a Barnes and Noble ?

How about seated, legs crossed, in a mini-skirt, not wearing panties ?

When I was growing up, when something was so obviously wrong, there was always an “against public policy” out for a judge, when a law was bad or ambiguous or not on the books.
That was a long time ago, in a far-away place.
20 posted on 05/20/2008 12:53:51 PM PDT by stylin19a
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