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October Surprise? I've got a hunch ...
The Steel Deal ^ | May 7, 2008

Posted on 05/07/2008 10:31:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I don't profess to be all that astute when it comes to politics and my observations about the world's oldest profession are made from far outside the beltway and with my own obvious bias. But, I have been paying more than passing attention to politics for a very long time and I know a few things. One thing I know is that a more cold and calculating couple of crooks than the Clintons has never appeared on the political scene throughout American history and perhaps - never. I also know they do nothing without their own personal and political interests being at the fore - nothing. They are as corrupt and contemptible as any creatures to ever walk on two legs. They are literally the spawn of Hell. True demons among us. Nothing they say or do should or can be trusted. And I am being generous and as kind as I can.

I've mentioned the following to many of you in emails or in the comments hereon. The reason Hillary Clinton does not drop out is because she knows something about Barack Obama that will destroy him. Remember, the Clintons invented the 'politics of personal destruction'. They are masters of it and Hillary was the driving force behind its invention and the hands-on commander of its implementation throughout her husband's political career. It was Hillary who created the infamous 'Bimbo Squad' to crush the lives of all the women who claimed her husband was a philanderer. She wielded that power through and with the aid of all the various agencies within her husband's control AND hired outside private operatives to conduct 'oppostion research' and personal intimidation that might have been found out by official oversight or scrutiny. All of that is proven fact.

The recent revelations about Barack Obama and his 'friends and associates' has not been sufficient to slow down his march to his party's nomination. Frankly, this is 'primary season' and the party faithful will not be dissuaded unless something momentous and catastrophic were to be revealed. Not only that, but her doing so now, would cause such turmoil within the Democratic party that she and her husband might forfeit what power they retain in the party. The Clintons have patiently allowed Obama to do his own damage to himself, but it hasn't been nearly enough.

Meanwhile, she keeps on chuggin' along and remains defiant - even to the point of paying for her own campaign out of pocket with not only her money - but Bill's as well. They would not be doing that if they were convinced she has no chance. They know she DOES have more than a chance or they would cease and desist now.

Given the ugliness of the revelations made to date about Obama, whatever it is that they have on him must be truly destructive - enough to cause him to withdraw completely. He has already admitted to drug use - so that's out. There can be only one thing that would allow the Clintons the assurance of certainty that they will prevail in this race. There's only one thing that would force Obama out immediately and which would not alienate half of the Democratic party with its disclosure.

The Clintons know something about the Obamas that cannot be refuted factually, dismissed by the most strident ally and that is so venal and shocking that even their most ardent supporters will throw them aside in favor of Hillary once it is made known. There is only one subject with that power - sex.

I predict either Barack or Michelle Obama has had gay laissons and the Clintons can prove it. I further predict that this information will not be made public until after the primaries are over and maybe even not until after the convention in August - thus leaving the Democrats with no other alternative but to turn to Hillary for rescue. I suspect she'll not align herself with him as Veep for the simple reason that it would tie her to him. I think that will be the best clue as to the possibility I am correct. If she is NOT the Veep candidate, which would almost certainly guarantee victory in November for them both - there's a real good reason why.

I could be wrong, I hope I am - this nation has had too many such scandals. Care to wager I am wrong?


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: election; elections; hillary; obama; predictions
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She must have something on him, or she wouldn't be spending her own money on the campaign...
1 posted on 05/07/2008 10:31:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Either she has something on him or the Dim superdelegate menagerie. I always wondered what you’d do with some 900 FBI files collecting dust in your attic...


2 posted on 05/07/2008 10:37:44 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Maybe next year...I guess...Let's Go Sharks!)
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One thing I know is that a more cold and calculating couple of crooks than the Clintons has never appeared on the political scene throughout American history and perhaps - never.

This comment is patently absurd. Anyone with more than a passing interest in American history knows the Clintons follow an illustrious line of American politcial crooks.

One only need to read the biographys of our founders and their era to find a mind blowing array of crooks, shysters and thieves in a political arena that makes ours tame by comparison.

3 posted on 05/07/2008 10:39:12 PM PDT by stravinskyrules (Why is it that whenever I hear a piece of music I don't like, it's always by Villa-Lobos?)
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Bill Clinton would prove however that the Democrats can forgive sex. Your theory that they have information on Obama seems like it might be plausible. Why they wouldn't have used it already though is a question. Also could the information be something non-sex related, possibly more likely, e.g. linking Obama more to people linked to terrorism.
4 posted on 05/07/2008 10:39:28 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins; stravinskyrules; All

I am not the author of this article, I just posted the thread.


5 posted on 05/07/2008 10:42:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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She must have something on him, or she wouldn't be spending her own money on the campaign...

She may well have 'something on him', however, Hillary would not be in the position she now finds herself if she really were all that politically astute. Half of the country despises her and almost half of the democrats, especially liberal men. Liberal men LOVE old Bill, because he had in their opinion more fun than anyone is suppose to get away with having.

Hillary does NOT know how to face defeat, and this time there is no 'vast right wing conspiracy' to point her wicked witched finger at to blame. Even lord McCain her best friend in the Senate has said she would make a goooooood president. And even their greatest nemesis Rush has been more than kind to her plight, and yet she is still behind in the numbers. But to her liberal mind the numbers are NOT relevant, this is her destiny come .ell or high water.

6 posted on 05/07/2008 10:42:32 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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She must have something on him, or she wouldn't be spending her own money on the campaign...

Perhaps, but if that is so, she's gonna play it soon. The OP suggestion that it will happen after the convention is a bit silly, don't you think?

7 posted on 05/07/2008 10:42:39 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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She’s probably looking for a way that it can’t possibly be traced back to her.


8 posted on 05/07/2008 10:43:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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I also know they do nothing without their own personal and political interests being at the fore - nothing. They are as corrupt and contemptible as any creatures to ever walk on two legs. They are literally the spawn of Hell. True demons among us. Nothing they say or do should or can be trusted. And I am being generous and as kind as I can.

Well, at least the author didn't let emotion get in the way of this candid and objective assessment. ;-)

I don't think waiting until after Obama is nominated to reveal a sexual piccadillo is a particularly sound tactic, and the Clintons of all people know it. At that point the MSM will have rallied around their boy Obama and will be furiously fending off any perceived threat just as they did for BJ Billy not so very long ago. "Can't we just censure and move on?" The Clintons remember, only the moveon.org folks are for Obama now, aren't they?

No, if they have it they'll have to use it and it'll have to be good. And Obama wasn't in the Senate when the FBI files mysteriously appeared in the White House basement. I have no basis for this other than gut feel but I think they do have it, and it isn't enough. Time will tell.

9 posted on 05/07/2008 10:47:04 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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She’s probably looking for a way that it can’t possibly be traced back to her.

Nah. Ol' Snakehead is a back door player. He knows how and where to play the card. I will bet you that 98% of the sleaze already laid on Obama came right out of Snakehead's back pocket.

10 posted on 05/07/2008 10:48:54 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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peccadillo. Whatever.


11 posted on 05/07/2008 10:50:43 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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LS and HRC know what’s up.


12 posted on 05/07/2008 10:52:14 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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You make a good point .. I was leaning that way too. The Clintons are very greedy and they have talked a lot about all their millions. For her to give up over 12 million .. she knows something nobody else knows.

But .. I find it interesting that at one point in the race, Bill Clinton suggested Obama would be a great VP - even though Obama was ahead at the time.

Soooooo .. what if she offers Obama the VP spot - in lieu of her silence ..?? The Clintons are good at bribery .. and if the Clintons just happened to get ahold of Obama’s FBI file ..???


13 posted on 05/07/2008 10:52:26 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Yon: "The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq.")
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Clinton himself has admitted that Hillary has eaten more ‘Humas’ in her lifetime than he has.

If the media is complicent in taking BHO down and leaving her intact, over homosexuality, then we can only hope Joe Andrew will step up and take her down.

THIS is chaos.


14 posted on 05/07/2008 10:57:59 PM PDT by txhurl (Hillary is realizing that she's just another womyn who slept with Bill Clinton for nothing)
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I don't think waiting until after Obama is nominated to reveal a sexual piccadillo is a particularly sound tactic, and the Clintons of all people know it.

Hillary wanted to win legit, but barring that, I could see her sabotaging B Hussein at just the right moment so that there wouldn't be enough time to do anything but giver her the nomination.

15 posted on 05/07/2008 10:58:38 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This writer is guessing that “gay sex” involving either Barack or Michelle or both is what the “scandal” will be about that will force Barack from the race. That THIS is what would cause even his own supporters to abandon him.

That doesn’t make any sense to me.

What’s wrong with “gay sex”? (sarcasm)

Also, given the lowdown (so far kept secret by the MSM) on Hillary and her female “friend”, any allegations about THAT SUBJECT would simply enable the Obamaians to turn that around and point back at Hillary.

I’m convinced if WE know about her inseperable “friend” then the Obamaians know about it, too.


16 posted on 05/07/2008 10:59:56 PM PDT by txrangerette (Just say "no" to the Obama Cult and the Clinton Machine!!)
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One thing I know is that a more cold and calculating couple of crooks than the Clintons has never appeared on the political scene throughout American history and perhaps - never. I also know they do nothing without their own personal and political interests being at the fore - nothing. They are as corrupt and contemptible as any creatures to ever walk on two legs. They are literally the spawn of Hell. True demons among us. Nothing they say or do should or can be trusted. And I am being generous and as kind as I can.

Oh man, that's beautiful, sniff,,, put a tear to my eye in its sensibilities, sob..., so touchingly true and softly explained.......

17 posted on 05/07/2008 11:05:04 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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"Oh man, that's beautiful, sniff,,, put a tear to my eye in its sensibilities, sob..., so touchingly true and softly explained......."

Bwahahahahaha! Love it!

18 posted on 05/07/2008 11:09:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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If she does, it surely isn’t of a sexual nature.

Dems always get a pass on that kind of stuff.

I dread an Bhussama presidency so much that when I hear things like this, I’m almost thankful that the Clintons are rotten to the core.

Eliminating the chance of a Bhussama presidency is a filthy job that needs to be done. The Clintons might be the only people ruthless enough to deliver the fatal blow and actually get away with it.

Look at everything they’ve gotten away with so far.

It could happen.


19 posted on 05/07/2008 11:14:55 PM PDT by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
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If the Clinton’s have something dirty on Obama that would prevent him from serving as President, all they have to do is today (or months ago) take it to the super delegates. They then would agree not to vote for Obama, a group of party elders would tell him he cannot win the nomination, and the race would be over with Hillary the winner. There is no need to wait till the convention or to make it public.


20 posted on 05/07/2008 11:19:15 PM PDT by FFranco
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