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JUST SAY NO : To John McCain (and ANY "conservative" who endorses him)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=justsayno2johnmccain ^ | 09 February 2008 | David Osborne

Posted on 02/09/2008 8:59:59 AM PST by davidosborne

JUST SAY NO --- Plan for a Conservative victory in 2012....

Click here...REF PREV "Just say No" THREADS: By: Freeper David Osborne..... ---> FR Keyword: JustSayNo2JohnMcCain <---

JUST SAY NO : To John McCain ^

JUST SAY NO - To John McCain PART II (How the left will destroy John McCain..... MUST READ)

JUST SAY NO : To a third PARTY.. (Republican Party is NOT dead -- YET)

Okay folks here we are.. we all know that the conservative majority in America has suffered a tremendous blow in the 2008 Presidential race.. but the conservative base is STILL in the GAME, and while we are down we are NOT defeated .... YET..

I would like to introduce the --

JUST SAY NO --- Plan for a Conservative victory in 2012....

In the previous threads I and a few other freepers tossed around the idea of conservatives voting FOR the HildaBEAST or OBAMA... whichever the case may be....I would liket to present FOUR (4) reasons why I think this is a good strategy for victory in 2012...

#1 JUST SAY NO ...

- First and Foremost... IF we rally behind McCain we send the message to the RNC that we will ALWAYS pull the lever for the "R" no matter how unacceptable the candidate is.... the argument that we "hate the "D" more than the "R" ---> voting for the lesser of 2 evils is no longer acceptable to the conservative base in America... PERIOD <----

#2 JUST SAY NO ...

- Voting FOR the HildaBEAST or OBAMA in the General Election will give a LOPSIDED VICTORY to the "D" thereby making their win CLEARLY illegimate to the WORLD !! <--- and YES the WORLD watches U.S. Politcs.. and if all the PUNDITS get on board with this plan we can futher the conservative agenda around the world even more... bringing in a 3rd party will ALWAYS result in a LIBERAL victory.. the fact is the CONSERVATIVES are the majority, yet conservatives will split their vote every time.. while the minority LIBERALS stand united and WIN... every time... In a strong TWO-Party system conservatives win EVERY TIME... in a 3-party system LIBERALS win .. EVERY TIME....

#3 JUST SAY NO ...

-- and a VERY important part of this plan.. we need to DEFUND the PRESIDENTIAL RACE in 2008.... sending a dime to the RNC, or sending a dime to McCain sends the message that the Conservatives in America will support ANYONE with an "R" -- and I just can't do that anymore...

#4 JUST SAY NO ...

-- and just as important as #3 is this... we need to divert ALL of our time/money that would normally be spent on the presidential race to the CONGRESSIONAL RACES... and here is why.. we MUST take back congress to keep the HildaBEAST or Obama in check.. there are several obvious reasons for this.. but I would like to point out ONE important but not so obvious reason... and this should help ease the conscience of anyone who THINKS they are "supporting" Obama or the HildaBEAST by voting for him/her... not only will a lopsided "victory" actually be --> GLOWING defeat...<-- the conservatives in congress will be EMPOWERED to aggressively oppose her administration because they will be able to say.. "Yes, I voted FOR you because the RNC candidate was unacceptable.." --- think about this way.. HOWEVER, IF we support McCain, and he actually is able to win (which I doubt) the conservatives in congress will feel OBLIGATED to support his agenda, and it WILL be the END of our TWO-PARTY SYSTEM... This is the MAIN reason why a THIRD-Party approach to 2008 is UNACCEPTABLE... IMHO..


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To: Sun
If Huckabee wins the nomination, I will back him 100 percent

I will too..but that seem unlikely.. but I still believe in miracles :).... It appears that all the "talking heads" are coming out of the woodworks to make sure that does not happen.. but its not over yet..

101 posted on 02/10/2008 7:43:48 PM PST by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: lookout88
Sorry, your position is not logical. I respect your values, but we are at war. Everyone seems to forget this. I sure didn't I just returned home from Baghdad my FRiend..
102 posted on 02/10/2008 7:44:45 PM PST by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: davidosborne

“..It appears that all the “talking heads” are coming out of the woodworks to make sure that does not happen.. “

I hope conservatives will ignore them, and support Huckabee.


103 posted on 02/10/2008 7:47:56 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter:pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating!)
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To: Sun

me too


104 posted on 02/10/2008 8:08:18 PM PST by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: davidosborne

I am a huge Duncan Hunter supporter. I just hope we stay practical and pragmatic. Even with McCain. Thank you for your service to our country.


105 posted on 02/10/2008 8:09:01 PM PST by lookout88 (Combat search and rescue officer's dad.)
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To: lookout88

:)


106 posted on 02/10/2008 8:30:44 PM PST by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: davidosborne

Duncan Hunter is a Conservative but he couldn’t even run his OWN campaign. Besides, he always looks angry - pissed off. No wonder nobody took him seriously.


107 posted on 02/10/2008 9:56:45 PM PST by CARepublicans
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To: CARepublicans

sorry.... that’s not gonna fly with me either... I got on board with Hunter very early in the game when I became convinced he was the BEST qualified candidate in the race... go back and read some of the FR threads.. not a single post from anyone disagreeing with him on ANY of the issues just a bunch of bogus “he can’t win” rhetoric...


108 posted on 02/11/2008 1:27:36 AM PST by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: ClancyJ

That will be fine if you want to have 2-3 liberal supreme court judges put in place for the next 40 years.

Not true. The two most likely to leave are liberals. At worst we will have the same Supreme Court we have now.


109 posted on 02/11/2008 1:35:12 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

Oh, so cave and accept the worse - spoken as a true conservative.

So, apparently you don’t see any need to vote conservative because it might disrupt your comfort level of the status quo.


110 posted on 02/11/2008 8:09:05 AM PST by ClancyJ
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To: ClancyJ

Give me a conservative to vote for and the person will have my vote. As I can see, that is not happening this election. McCain is Democratic light, Hillary is Democrat Regular, and Obama is socialist if not worse.


111 posted on 02/11/2008 8:21:12 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: CARepublicans

“he always looks angry “

Obviously, you haven’t been paying attention.

BEFORE you vote, please start paying attention, and do some research.


112 posted on 02/11/2008 8:56:20 AM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter:pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating!)
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To: ClancyJ

VOTE CONSERVATIVE IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RACES... PUT the HildaBEAST in the WhiteHouse for 4 years so that the POWER SHIFT will lean more towards the congress NOT the WhiteHouse..


113 posted on 02/11/2008 11:12:57 AM PST by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: ClancyJ

Amen.


114 posted on 02/12/2008 7:40:14 AM PST by Lumper20
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To: davidosborne

A vote for the Donk will result in a belief that the GOP lost because they weren’t far enough to the left.


115 posted on 02/12/2008 11:18:03 AM PST by GoLightly
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To: davidosborne; All

I’m going to vote today in our primary, and probably will not vote for McCain. I may write someone in, or simply leave it undecided.

However, if McCain is the nominee, then I will vote for him in the general, and here’s why: We not only have a moral responsibility to promote conservatism where ever we can, but we also have a moral responsibility to DEFEAT the Democrat party and liberalism where ever we can.

To vote FOR the Democrat party candidate is obviously antithetical to the above axiom. I certainly hope you and others aren’t taking this stance simply because the toothpick (I mean Ann Coulter) said the same thing. Ann Coulter said what she said to get attention; she really doesn’t care about conservatism and especially doesn’t care about DEFEATING liberalism. This much should be obvious. And it should be obvious that voting for the Dem candidate “out of spite” (because that’s what that would be) would be surrendering to the cause of liberalism.

Is McCain even my FIFTH choice? No. Of course not. There aren’t any arguments (except those borne out of, what I like to call, “single issue stress”, or SIS) that make any sense that say “McCain is the same as Hillary”. He’s not.

Can one show me similarities between him and Hillary? I’ll bet you can. But similarity does not equal identity, this is a mathematical axiom, and it’s an axiom we all should remember when voting in the general. No one likes that, ONCE AGAIN, we are forced to choose between the lesser of two evils. But we had plenty of nicely conservative candidates in the beginning of the race; we have no one to blame but OURSELVES for the mess we’re in.

So, behaving like a petulant child and saying, “I’m going to let Hillary/Obama win” or, even worse, “I’m going to vote FOR the GREATER of two evils” is being IRRESPONSIBLE, if not MORALLY REPREHENSIBLE.


116 posted on 02/12/2008 11:39:18 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: alicewonders

It’s time to all hold hands and say “President Hussein”.....


117 posted on 02/12/2008 12:43:45 PM PST by x_plus_one (The entire Islamic moral universe devolves solely from the life and teachings of Muhammad.)
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To: FourtySeven
We not only have a moral responsibility to promote conservatism where ever we can, but we also have a moral responsibility to DEFEAT the Democrat party and liberalism where ever we can.

sorry can't do it.. DEFEAT Democrats in 2012... PROMOTE conservatism by opposing McCain... and supporting conservatives in the CONGRESS for 2008... NOT A PENNY TO THE RNC in 08'

118 posted on 02/12/2008 12:56:04 PM PST by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: davidosborne

I did just that with my primary vote, it was in Illinois however so it was hardly noticed.


119 posted on 02/12/2008 5:06:07 PM PST by valkyry1
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To: ClancyJ

Oh come on, McCain has it.

We know those who are voting for Huckabee are protest votes against McCain.

Its time to just forget what McCain did against Bush and move on.


120 posted on 02/12/2008 5:07:53 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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