Posted on 10/05/2007 11:12:39 AM PDT by AuntB
A new, two nation poll from Zogby International shows that a large majority of Mexicans believes the southwest U.S. rightfully belongs to Mexico, and that they should be free to enter the U.S. without obtaining U.S. permission.
The largest majority in the poll, however, was found among the 68 percent of Americans who support use of the military to guard the border. The survey was conducted in the U.S. and in Mexico in May.
The poll was conducted for Americans for Immigration Control, Inc. "While most Americans want immigration reduced, most Mexicans think they don't even need permission to enter our country. This poll clearly shows there is less common ground for immigration negotiations between Mexico and the U.S. than leaders think. Support for a porous border and a loose migration policy occurs only on the Mexican side, not in the U.S." said Robert Goldsborough, AIC president.
The survey found a wide majority, 65 percent, of Americans oppose amnesty for illegal aliens, and a large majority, 58 percent, agree that the U.S. should "admit fewer immigrants each year."
I tried that. Found myself a nice quiet mountain. Now the Mexican drug cartels are all over the forests and national parks growing dope. Last year one farm that destroyed hundreds of acres of habitat was 5 miles from my home. And they're armed and dangerous MS-13 and awol mexican military types.
There's no where left to run.
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=Invasion+the+border+has+moved+800+miles
Its about time to push South again. The border fence would be much shorter and cheaper if we put it at the isthmus of Panama.
We know that because you can dig up their artifacts.
Indians moved around, and those with boats regularly crossed the Gulf of Mexico to settle in other places.
Agreed. I can’t believe anyone travels to Mexico these days, but then it’s gotten about the same here...
Fine, they own the southwest? Then they owe us about 150 years in back property taxes and based on what I pay, they’d be better off to just surrender the property for sheriff’s sale.
Pretty soon it will be politically incorrect for you/me/everyone to call an illegal immigrant, illegal”
It already IS!
Thanks for telling/writing me. LOL Okay, how about it will soon be illegal to say/write the word illegal immigrant.
BTW, hope you get to the country sooner than later. Good luck.
That’s great testimony. Thanks
This is the most cogent reason to shutdown the border completely. We have enough problems already without importing a fifth-column that will seek to undermine and destroy our nation.
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something about "great minds"....
Who commits crime in Eagle County?
Vail CO, Colorado
October 4, 2007
http://www.vaildaily.com/article/20071004/NEWS/71004053
EAGLE COUNTY — Manuel Pilas sympathizes with illegal immigrants who want to follow the law. But he acknowledges that a criminal element exists in the valley.
“We live in a different world there,” Pilas said about his former home country, Mexico. “People have a hard time adjusting to the rules of the new country.”
Several illegal immigrants have been arrested for serious crimes in the valley recently, but residents say that most illegal immigrants are good people trying to make a living.
On Aug. 29, Jorge Valdez, was sentenced to 16 years in prison for raping his girlfriend at knifepoint in May 2006 at a Westlake Village apartment in Avon. Valdez terrorized the woman with a knife over a two-day period.
On Aug. 1, Gustavo Adolfo Aparicio Romero, 19, of Honduras, allegedly tried to strangle his 21-year-old ex-girlfriend in Nottingham Park, Avon police said. Included in his charges is attempted first-degree murder, police said.
Josue Roberto Delgado was arrested on suspicion of cocaine possession in January and re-entering the country illegally. Then on July 5, Delgado was arrested on suspicion for selling cocaine to undercover police in Gypsum, the Eagle County Sheriff’s Office said. Delgado sold the most drugs in western Eagle County of any other drug dealer, investigators said.
A bike path mugging around midnight July 30 in Avon netted arrests of brothers Bacilio Felipe Pacheco and Felipe Pacheco, of Mexico, Avon police said.
Colorado Senate Bill 90, approved May 1, 2006:
“A peace officer who has probable cause that an arrestee for a criminal offense is not legally present in the United States shall report such arrestee to the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement office if the arrestee is not held at a detention facility.
“If the arrestee is held at a detention facility and the county sheriff reasonably believes that the arrestee is not legally present in the United States, the sheriff shall report such arrestee to the federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement office.”
Getting things ‘right’
Pilas first immigrated to the United States in 1980 and has never been arrested, he said. He went back and forth to Mexico and even overstayed his visa. Eight years later, he became a legal resident through an amnesty program.
Now he owns Santa Fe Furniture in Gypsum and has four children and a wife, Yolanda.
Violence is more prevalent in certain parts of Mexico than in the United States, said Pilas, originally of Puerto Vallarta. And drunk driving is not as taboo in some parts of Mexico, he said.
“They somehow tend to believe they are living in that same world,” he said.
Extensive background checks should be used for people who want to immigrate to the United States, Pilas said. And if Mexicans are willing to follow the law, the government should let them live in the United States, he added.
Many have families who and have to go back and forth to see them, which shouldn’t be a crime, he said.
“They want to get things right,” he said. “And the only thing they will never get right is their legal status and I sympathize.”
Most illegal immigrants follow the law, said Lydia Morales, manager of Aspens Mobile Home Village. Many are Hispanic and are good people trying to make a living.
“I don’t think their legal status has anything to do with whether they are committing crimes,” she said. “There are a lot of American-born people who commit crimes, too.”
Morales grew up in western Nebraska with 12 brothers and sisters. Morales’ parents punished all of the children if one did something wrong, she said. So the Morales children would pressure each other not to get into trouble, she said.
She sees the same kind of discipline in Hispanic families she knows, she said.
“Being Hispanic myself, I know how we’re raised,” she said. “We’re taught respect and to abide the law.”
Feds must prosecute
It’s unclear whether illegal immigrants are committing more or less crime each year. State law began requiring police departments to report the number of suspected illegal immigrants arrested to U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement at the end of 2006, said Avon Police Chief Brian Kozak.
Avon police reported 30 suspected illegal immigrants they arrested to Immigrations and Customs from Jan. 1 to Aug. 31; Vail police reported six suspected illegal immigrants, authorities said.
“Avon P.D. notifies [Immigration and Customs] when we arrest a person and the officers have probable cause to believe the person is an illegal alien,” Kozak said.
The Eagle County Sheriff’s Office reported 102 people born outside the country jailed between July 31, 2006, and June 30, authorities said. That number includes those jailed by Avon and Vail police, but makes no distinction between those who are here illegally and those who are not, said Spokeswoman Sara Cross. The Sheriff’s Office reports suspected illegal immigrants differently, so it could not provide the same statistics as Vail and Avon, Cross said.
Immigration and Customs did not provide statistics for this article.
Last week, the Eagle County jail reported 15 out of 47 inmates to Immigration and Customs, said Jail Administrator Bill Kaufman. Most weeks, 30 to 35 percent of inmates are reported to Immigration and Customs no matter if they get a misdemeanor or felony charge, he said.
Jail staffers report people to Immigration and Customs if they say they are from a foreign country. Immigration and Customs then determines whether a person is an illegal immigrant, Kaufman said.
There’s no state law that bars people for entering the country illegally or remaining in Colorado illegally, so the Eagle County District Attorney’s Office does not prosecute, said District Attorney Mark Hurlbert.
“The feds do have a law like that so it’s up to them to prosecute,” Hurlbert said.
For the ties to La Raza go to DiscovertheNetworks.com.
It is an amzing web of deceit!
Thanks, will check it out.
I don't think they resemble termites so much as they do locusts.
I agree with AuntB too. Mexico is unquestionably our country's enemy, and those in our society who facilitate this invasion are collaborators. It is my fervent hope that someday they will be dealt with as such.
I'd say follow common decency and respect for your fellow man, but it seems as if even THAT'S too hard to figure out for some people....
I think most of us here would appreciate it if you were to take a pic of this school, and other desicrated areas, and post it on FR as evidence. The same goes for any other FReeper. Let’s make our points with pics as well as with rhetoric. Arm our true citixens with as much ammo as possible as we go into battle.
There is definitely something pathological about this sense of entitlement...never seen such an arrogant group of people in my lifetime...
I agree. I wish I had done so before I moved. I saw a beautiful, well groomed 2 acre estate turn into a garbage dump with little plywood and metal shacks all over it in two weeks time when 15 or 20 illegal aliens moved in. It was surreal.
Yes. I can’t even imagine what it must be like in California or Texas or New Mexico if it’s this bad up North.
I pray for our great nation every night. (in English)
That’s absolutely horrifying. What are you going to do?
My daughter built a home that was next door. I had to sell it got so bad, and it got bad fast. The ‘authorities’ refused to do anything (Oregon) until someone was hurt. They were 2 acre lots, but these guys had to hang out in the street. Every time a realtor tried to show our places, they were out there, being obscene, banging on the hoods of cars as they drove by. Needless to say I had to almost give the place away. This cheap labor cost my family about a million dollars in real estate and our entire future. I lived there 30 years.
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