Posted on 10/05/2007 11:12:39 AM PDT by AuntB
You are so right....and I hope we spend more time attacking the disease than the symptom...but I don't think it is or ever was about race anyway...it's about culture...which is choice... if you are Mexican you still have the choice to adopt the culture of the drunk...corruption...socialism...crime...chaos...lack of ethics.. dirt and poverty....I have a very close Mexican friend who is a wonderful legal American and rejects all that and the culture that gives birth to it...
Focusing our anger on them however is not going to solve anything in my opinion. I think the focus should be on Judge Bottomfeeder, Senator Slimexcreter and Mayor Muslimsuck. They are our real enemies.
There are plenty of crooked Americans who richly deserve to be used as pinatas.
Agreed.
Quote from video:
“Our enemy is not the Minutemen. Our enemy is capitalism and imperialism”.
He doesn’t care who owns the southwest as long as it’s commie.
Gingos, no mas! /s
I called Adam Schiff’s office, and his staff member fell for that line about the Louisana purchase and agreed it should be given back to France. Then I said guess we don’t need you guys any more to represent this area since Mexico owns it. Then we don’t need congress or senate to represent 2/3 of the U.S. cause it no longer exists....
Because our wacky liberals and the soft on liberalism conservatives never ask these dears what they think of the USA or Americans (especially the hated gringo)because they are all stuck in their own private fantasy world.
At MSU the Hispanics are now demanding that certain speakers be prohibited from speaking and want to strip our right to free speech. If it were a few of them coming over, that would be one thing. But we are faced with a mass invasion. Since the invasion is this extensive, they pose the biggest threat to us and need to be deported.
Check this out from an email:
Subject: Americans Confront Presidente Fox, Federales, and MS13s in America!
Date sent: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 18:22:54 +0000
This Past Sunday, Save Our State hosted a protest. The Mexican Political
Party (Partido Accion Nacional or PAN) hosted their conference on
American soil at Plaza Mexico in Lynwood, CA. The purpose of the event
was to increase membership and strength in the USA!!
The rally began peacefully as 50 American ralliers were joined by a dozen
migrant workers from the PRD (Mexican Party). The migrants shared that
they wanted to go back home to Mexico.They shared our point of view on
illegal immigration and apologized. They stated that PAN was corrupt and
stole all the money for themselves, therefore leaving nothing for the
citizens. The migrants want Mexico fixed so they can go back home. They
want to work with we Americans to help bring about the change. The
organizer of their rally told me that they did not agree with the communist,
anarchist, anchor babies who usually counterprotest us. He stated that they
just did not know the truth.
About 30 minutes into the rally, we received a confirmation that former
Presidente Fox was the special guest speaker of the conference. Now
this conference was kept under the radar...it was very secretive. SOS
learned about the conference thanks to a VDARE article written by
Alan Wall. I asked Lupe Moreno & Robin Hvidston to call the Plaza
Mexico for a confirmation. Robin reported that the restaurant (La
Huasteca) at the Plaza where the actual conference was to be held denied
such an event. There was no listing of the event on their calendar. Only
Alan Wall’s article and an El Universal article cited the conference. Mainly
Spanish media was present. The only English media was local CBS 2
which reported they learned of the event via the SOS press release.(Later
in the day, Spanish newspaper Hoy contacted me for an interview. Hoy did
not even know about the event.) This event was kept secret.
There were Mexican Nationals that appeared to be Federales.They tried to
tell us that they were parking lot guards. The Political Observer, a free
speech newspaper, captured video of Fox, you will notice the “parking lot”
guards in the videos on YouTube. You decide if these were Mexican
agents.If they were Mexican agents, where were the mandatory U.S.
secret service agents??
Towards the end of the rally, the dynamic changed and turned violent as
anchor baby Zapata followers and MS13 gang members suddenly
surrounded us. The Lynwood Sheriffs did NOT protect us!! While a
couple of our members were being attacked, I asked the Sheriffs to do
something. One of the Sheriffs told me “I don’t see anything!” There were
only about 6 sheriffs on the scene. They basically stood back and watched
the chaos.Thankfully Keith Hardine and Randy Dees, our American
volunteer security guards for the event, were present to help us leave the
scene safely. (For all who attended the event, please submit a report
regarding the sheriffs to me. We will file a complaint.)
Videos, photos, and personal reports of the event can be located here:
http://www.saveourstate.org/vforums/showthread.php?t=32613
More videos of the event are located at www.immigrationwatchdog.com
And on YouTube search for the videos created by Political Observer and
The Watchdog.
Summary: Former Presidente Fox speaks at secret Mexican Political
Party Convention here in the USA!
And local American Sheriffs allowed Americans to be attacked by
Illegal mob which included MS13 gang members.
The news is not covering this event!!!! PLEASE FORWARD TO YOUR
LISTS!! We must inform Americans on what is happening here in the
United States!! Corrupt Mexican Politics is here in America!!!!
BUMP
and then....
On Aug. 29, Jorge Valdez, was sentenced to 16 years in prison for raping his girlfriend at knifepoint in May 2006 at a Westlake Village apartment in Avon. Valdez terrorized the woman with a knife over a two-day period.
Do I understand this person to be saying that the actions in the second quote is within the rules of the OLD country?
susie
They are a symptom, I suppose, the same way skin cancer is a symptom of too much sun exposure.
susie
It would appear that the American electorate, focusing their righteous anger on the illegal immigrants is actually having an impact. Witness how many places are suddenly doing something about the issue. This didn’t happen thru wishful thinking.
susie
I still believe that greed, lust for power and corruption on our side of the border is at the root of the problem.
Setting aside for a moment, the serious issue of criminal acts by illegals and the obnoxious rhetoric of "immigration activists" and Aztlan separatists, I must tell you that if I were some poor third world wretch, and gainful employment, with government services thrown in were dangled in front of me I'd probably do the same thing. The disgraceful behavior of the Mexican government comes as no surprise to me either. It's Mexico after all.
My anger and frustration over this issue sometimes causes me to say things I sometimes shouldn't say on an internet forum, so suffice to say I share many people's angst.
The problem we all go on so much about on FR would not exist the way it does if moneyed interests in our country, both commercial and political were not allowing it to continue.
You said in another post to me that the "illegals were a symptom like skin cancer from too much sun exposure." and in a sense I agree. But when I look at things that happen in my own country, particularly in our government, academia and business community I feel discouraged, and think that perhaps those illegals are merely scavengers come to feed on a rotting corpse.
I think we all feel discouraged. I grew up in the southwest. Most of the hispanic people I knew when I was growing up were indistinguishable from me. We shared a culture for the most part. Today of course it is much different, and I think the real anger over illegal immigration is the loss of the culture we grew up with, probably less so than any other factor.
Certainly we can place the lions share of the blame on our own leaders, who (as my Dad used to say) would sell their grandmother down the river for a vote or a dollar, the roots of the problem are many (and you have outlined them in your own post—and if we sat and thought a minute we could probably add others).
I cannot say for certain what I would do faced with the same situation as the poor of Mexico (and other countries to our south). I am certain, however, that I would be terribly grateful for the chance to change my life and I would not feel in the least bit loyal to the country or countrymen who gave me such a harsh life. I would not demand that the country that allowed me to survive and even thrive became like the hellhole I left. THIS, I think, is the crux of the problem. If illegal aliens from across our border wanted to become American, most people would probably at worst ignore them. While some *immigrants* undoubtedly do exactly that, many do the opposite. It has gotten to be too much for the average American. I am frankly surprised that it took this long, however I was probably aware of the problem, since I lived much closer to th border until recently, much early than many.
Thank you for civil discourse.
susie
Wasn't he Arthur Branch's predecessor on Law and Order?
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