Posted on 06/05/2006 5:34:31 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
The sense of electoral victimhood among the Democrats is rapidly spreading from the kookie fringes like DUmmieland to the CENTER of the Democrat Party as evidenced by the recent Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. WHINE in Rolling Stoned Magazine about how the 2004 election was stolen (by recycling already discredited fantasies). Even though the "proof" offered by Kennedy and others of the kook fringe is laughable, the professional Democrats now realize they need to accept such "stolen election" fantasies" in order to keep their hard core support among the loonie left. We had a hint of it earlier when Mama T suggested that her Boy Toy had the 2004 election stolen from him. And now we have Al Gore REFUSING to answer a direct question put to him as to whether he thinks the 2000 election was stolen. Up until recently, Gore merely maintained that he really thought he won that election and was just trying to get a full count of the vote in Florida. However, Gore now implies by his NON-ANSWER that the 2000 election was STOLEN from him as you can see in this May 26 ISSUE of New York Magazine. Of course, the DUmmies have jubilantly lept upon Gore's refusal to answer that question as proof that Al Gore thinks the 2000 election was stolen as you can see in this THREAD titled, "Al Gore's scary statement on stolen elections." So let us now watch the DUmmies bask in the glow of Al Gore validating their electoral paranoia in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, who won't be surprised if John Kerry soon hops aboard the "Election Was Stolen" bandwagon, is in the [brackets]:
Al Gore's scary statement on stolen elections
[Scary. Very scary the way is now pandering to the LOONY LEFT by implying his 2000 election was stolen from him.]
This is a little out of date, because it came out last week in New York Magazine's generally favorable portrait of Al Gore. It seems all the more relevant now that Bobby Kennedy's article has come out in Rolling Stone, and a mini-controversy has erupted over John Kerry's continuing refusal to agree that the election, at least in Ohio, was blatantly a violation of the Voting Rights Act, and probably stolen.
[Don't worry. We can soon expect John Kerry to begin pandering in the same way as Al Gore when he realizes that his 2008 Presidential campaign will get NOWHERE in the Democrat primaries unless he confirms the paranoid left in their electoral conspiracy theories.]
Al Gore has also been unwilling to make a definitive statement, but the response he gave the magazine was chilling, and at least explains how seriously he takes this issue, and why it might not be in the best interest of the country for a leader like himself to come out clearly in support of those who claim both elections were stolen.
[So instead Gore sends out the signal that he DOES believe the 2000 election by REFUSING to answer a question as to whether he thinks that election was stolen.]
I'd be very curious how DUers interpret this strange Gore quote:
“In spite of that,” Gore goes on, “we won the popular vote and came within one Supreme Court justice’s vote of winning the election. So if that final decision had gone the other way, the question might well be, how did you guys pull it off?”
Does he, like many Democrats, think the election was stolen?
Gore pauses a long time and stares into the middle distance. “There may come a time when I speak on that,” Gore says, “but it’s not now; I need more time to frame it carefully if I do.” Gore sighs. “In our system, there’s no intermediate step between a definitive Supreme Court decision and violent revolution.”
Later, I put the question of Gore’s views on the matter to David Boies, his lawyer in the Florida-recount battle. “He thought the court’s ruling was wrong and obviously political,” Boies says. So he considers the election stolen? “I think he does—and he’s right.”
[Folks, this might surprise you but I have to THANK DUmmie HamdenRice for finding and highlighting this Gore refusal to answer a question as to whether he thinks the 2000 election was stolen as well as the information that his recount lawyer agrees that it was stolen as well as his belief that Gore shares the same fantasy. Somehow this information sort of slipped through the cracks and yet it SHOULD be BIG NEWS. So thanx to the DUmmies for putting this issue under the magnifying glass.]
"V" for Vendetta!!
["P" for Paranoia!]
I like Gore's statement.
[Actually non-statement. He DECLINED to answer a DIRECT question as to whether he thought the 2000 election was stolen which implies that he DOES think it was stolen.]
Of course it was stolen, who's got the balls to take it home?!!
[And thanx in large part to RFK, Jr's "Stolen Election" article in Rolling Stoned, any Democrat now who wishes to get nominated for President is going to have to publicly buy into your electoral delusion.]
Gave me chills when he said that. Do we need any more proof that the man gets it?
[It is proof that Gore wants to get your primary support.]
You are right -- he clearly gets it, and the quote from Bois suggests that he has privately told people he thinks the election was stolen. Is he afraid that if he comes out strongly, mobs with pitchforks will beseige DC?
[More like white coated guys with butterfly nets besieging his non-campaign HQ.]
Wow. Seems like Al smells the same putrid stench of fascism that most of us do.
[Wow! Seems like Al smells the same putrid stench of leftist paranoia that most of us are wallowing in.]
So I think I can even take a wild guess as to what he is holding back from saying: That what we experienced in 2000 was, properly speaking, a violent revolution from which we have not yet recovered.
[I would like to a wild guess as to what is Al Gore's DUmmie screen name.]
You must admit Kerry's nonplussed reaction to 2004, specifically that there was no substantive evidence of fraud in Ohio that would have changed the outcome of the election, has resurfaced again and again like a bad meal of tainted clams.
[The DUmmies are now TURNING on Kerry for not proclaiming that the 2004 election was stolen from him.]
Kerry is making cautious statements about election reform, but has publicly rebuked Mark Crispin Miller about Miller's contention that Kerry knew the election was stolen. Gore is basically saying that the election may have been stolen but for national security reasons, he has to craft a careful statement about it. And in the politics of leaks and spokespersons, Gore has freed his attorney to say, yes the election was stolen while even through his spokesmen, Kerry's message is basically, we can't know what the outcome would have been.
[Uh-Oh! This doesn't look good for Kerry. Unless he soon hops aboard the "Election Was Stolen" bandwagon, he can kiss his 2008 nomination goodbye.]
Gore fought election fraud through the Florida and US Supreme Courts and lost. After that, there was no remedy other than "violent revolution". Kerry did not exhaust his remedies; he didn't even try them.
[It would have meant taking an unwelcome break from the ski slopes of Davos.]
2000 was a bitter pill that continues to leave a bad taste in my mouth. I would dearly love the election of Al Gore in 2008 to the job he rightfully won in 2000, only this time he moves in to the White House. My wellbeing requires a reckoning.
[I have to give Al Gore credit for conducting a Non-Campaign Campaign. See, he gets TONS of publicity with his travelling Environment Shtick without having to get down to the dirty details of conducting a political campaign but still ends up gaining Democrat support for that very campaign. Al Gore is RUNNING by NOT running. He wants the Democrat Left (and that's pretty much ALL the Democrats) to BEG him to run and one way is by confirming their "Stolen Election" delusion.]
He should come out and declare himself the winner in 2000and denounce the Supreme Court's political decision. What does he have to lose? And, it will bring more attention the our unfair election process.
[A "Make A Wish" request for Al Gore. And he just might grant it.]
Sorry, 13...but at least you didn't do it TOMORROW...LOL! (6/6/06)
Lyndon Johnson promised and dug up 500,000 votes then were living in the border towns of south Texas.. Yep it was stolen, down and dirty.. Nixon was screwed royal..
Didn't your mother teach you this stuff?
Top 25!
Boy, these Dims waste more time over a moot point. OK, even if they admit it was stolen, what difference does it make now? Chriminy, most folks are talking about '08. Get over it already.
"there is no evidence that Gore would have won the recount."
Didn't several different left wing groups do a recount after the fact trying to prove Gore won? It seems 5 or 6 recounts were done and each showed a Bush victory.
Several major newspapers did do exhaustive recounts under several different "ballot mind reading" scenarios (discerning which chads were to be counted as valid votes). In all but one of them, Bush emerged victorious.
This story hit the news cycle on or about September 11, 2001.
SD
There were some, but they had to be creative in the way ballots would be counted to do it. They basically came up with a counting method designed to make Gore win. Under the standard that Gore fought for, he would have lost. And that is what most legitimate news organizations tried to do.
I am SOoooo sick of this shiite.....
Libs simply cannot accept that they have beeb REJECTED by the American people, from the White house to local dog-catcher....
Libs cry about some Diebold fantasy in a state they LOST by 100K+++ and Minnie Mouse tried to register as a DEM, and absolutely ignore the HUNDREDS of Dems convicted nationwide for VOTER FRAUD, or the stolen elections in PA, WI, and Wa..
Watch for John Kerry to soon join the "Stolen Election" crowd. He HAS to in order to keep support among the loonie left base which is now a MAJOR component of the Democrat Party.
Good point.
The DUmmies' live on their own planet.
MOST people saw Gore as a sore loser, which is exactly what he was/is. Gore will never be the POTUS, except in his dreams and DUmmie fairytales.
By the time Gore is done, no one will even remember he was VP for 8 years---all that will be left are memories of him as a psychotic blowfish.
Two well-known "right-wing" sources like the NY Times and CNN reported that Bush won:
New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/12/politics/12VOTE.html?ei=5070&en=59594c45b66eb9fa&ex=1064030400&pagewanted=print
November 12, 2001
Study of Disputed Florida Ballots Finds Justices Did Not Cast the Deciding Vote
By FORD FESSENDEN and JOHN M. BRODER
A comprehensive review of the uncounted Florida ballots from last year's presidential election reveals that George W. Bush would have won even if the United States Supreme Court had allowed the statewide manual recount of the votes that the Florida Supreme Court had ordered to go forward.
Contrary to what many partisans of former Vice President Al Gore have charged, the United States Supreme Court did not award an election to Mr. Bush that otherwise would have been won by Mr. Gore. A close examination of the ballots found that Mr. Bush would have retained a slender margin over Mr. Gore if the Florida court's order to recount more than 43,000 ballots had not been reversed by the United States Supreme Court.
Even under the strategy that Mr. Gore pursued at the beginning of the Florida standoff — filing suit to force hand recounts in four predominantly Democratic counties — Mr. Bush would have kept his lead, according to the ballot review conducted for a consortium of news organizations...
No?
"Some guy told me some Republican handed out flyers telling Dems to vote on Wednesday"=DUmmie iron-tight proof of election fraud
These people are morons.
Top 50! Boogity boogity boogity! Let's go racin', boooyyyyyyz! (and girls)
""If you allow someone like Saddam Hussein to get nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, chemical weapons, biological weapons, how many people is he going to kill with such weapons? He's already demonstrated a willingness to use these weapons. He poison-gassed his own people. He used poison gas and other weapons of mass destruction against his neighbors. This man has no compunction about killing lots and lots of people...."
-- Al Gore, Dec. 16, 1998
Several MSM newspapers were involved in recounts and each came up with figures that showed Bush winning Florida by a few hundred votes, as I recall.
What the.....?!!?
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