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Why Polygamy Should Be Legalized
ALBROCK Blog ^
| May 11, 2006
| Alex Bastardas
Posted on 05/10/2006 10:35:10 PM PDT by albrock
Why Polygamy Should Be Legalized

Lately, with the FBI's decision to add polygamy sect leader Warren Jeffs to the Most Wanted list, many shows (Anderson Cooper, America's Most Wanted...) have extensively reported on this particular sect.
Polygamy in the United States is forbidden. That, believe it or not, is what causes all the problems and what helps arise dangerous sects like the FLDS (Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints).
How so? Well, Imagine you are a fundamentalist Mormon (NOT a member of that sect) and as such you believe that polygamy is right and you decide you want to live your life carrying a polygamous lifestyle. Ok, maybe 40 years later, when you have settled a family with 4 wives and 35 children, you are arrested because you practice polygamy. How do you think the family of this father and grandfather will feel? And, further, isn't the United States a nation that protects religious freedom??
Because the government does not allow these people to practice polygamy, they start to feel alienated from mainstream society and start to greatly distrust the authorities and our laws.
This is the perfect situation for a nut like Warren Jeffs to take advantage of. In other words, he can create a sect because those people have been forbad to follow their harmless religious believes by the government and need someone that can protect them from the government's tyranny.
Now, many will argue that polygamy is a dangerous practice perse and that this is not a question of religious freedom but of human rights. Wrong. What certainly is deplorable is how Warren Jeffs has perverted the belief and established a dictatorship within the community. But polygamy perse is in no way tyrannical in nature, it is just a lifestyle. An example of a free polygamous society is Centennial Park, AZ; located a couple miles south of the Colorado City/Hildale area. The citizens of Centennial Park are fundamentalist polygamous Mormons but they do not force anyone to practice polygamy, and everyone can join or leave the faith.
It is therefore a mere question of freedom of religion, and because the government is denying this freedom, sects and hostility towards the government arise.
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KEYWORDS: arizona; coloradocity; flds; freedomofreligion; hildale; jeffs; marriagelaws; mormons; multiplewives; polygamists; polygamy; religion; samesexmarriage; sect; utah; warrenjeffs
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To: linda_22003
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posted on
05/11/2006 10:17:41 AM PDT
by
albrock
To: rintense
Well, I doubt a woman would "choose" and "ask" for her husband to beat her up, or a kid would "choose" or "beg" a sicko to abuse him.
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posted on
05/11/2006 10:18:55 AM PDT
by
albrock
To: rintense
I dont know how one would do. Maybe they will do one after they finish Big Love. I know one thing when my ex husband agrees with my 2nd (present) husband I HATE it!! We all get along because of the kids and are friends but when we have holidays together and they tease me I truly hate it. When they agree with something over the kids and I dont its horrible, like a giant stone wall. One man is enough .
63
posted on
05/11/2006 10:20:39 AM PDT
by
pandoraou812
( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
To: pandoraou812
Can you tell me who is really supporting these large families??? Its not easy to support 6 children and give them what they need let alone 35. So tell me how it is done and done legally please.It's not legal. Basically, the other wives report that the father is unknown, and they receive welfare benefits. FLDS followers call this "bleeding the beast."
Welcome to a religion that enshrines welfare fraud as a sacrament.
To: albrock
Because the government ... and start to greatly distrust the authorities and our laws.This should be universal.
65
posted on
05/11/2006 10:23:29 AM PDT
by
Professional Engineer
(Why do we need new math books? Because 2+2=5 now, silly.)
To: catholicfreeper
How come where I live a child just has to say boo and Child welfare is all over parents. But we have this wacko situation going on out there all over the west and the State says it can't do nothing.Because in your area, the CPS personnel are not your co-religionists and partners in crime. In Colorado City, they are.
To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Yes, legalize polygamy and then they won't be considered "single mothers" and therefore would not be able to "bleed the beast". If anything this is an argument FOR polygamy.
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posted on
05/11/2006 10:32:00 AM PDT
by
albrock
To: albrock
Accepting your argument for the moment there is apparently subterfuge going on.
Very few men can afford to support 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 or more wives each with 2, 3, 4, 5 or more children. The economic opportunities in remote parts of Utah or other western states are not that great. Until someone can show me some economic underpinnings I smell big-time welfare fraud. And no, welfare fraud is not an alternate lifestyle.
Secondly where are the women coming from? What are their ages at marriage? I repeat show some real verifiable facts, because the only explanation I can see is mass organized statutory rape and child abuse. But maybe you can educate me.
And then boy babies and girl babies are born to human beings 50-50. So if one hundred men have three wives each, that suggest strongly there are two hundred men with no wives at all. So explain to me how this all works, because to me it all seems extremely unstable sociologically, and not viable as an alternate lifestyle. Somebody, a lot of somebodies are being cheated for the benefit of a few. In short, a fraud.
But again, maybe I'm wrong, maybe you can educate me. Facts, please. Independently verifiable facts.
68
posted on
05/11/2006 10:36:20 AM PDT
by
Cheburashka
(World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
To: albrock
Yes, legalize polygamy and then they won't be considered "single mothers" and therefore would not be able to "bleed the beast". If anything this is an argument FOR polygamy.Except that it's still going to be an abusive relationship for the wives and the children, and they'll continue to defraud the government (because that's free money). Note that biology mandates 1 man and 1 woman as the marital unit, because we have about a 1:1 split between men and women. Sustaining polygamy requires extraordinary levels of coercion, which is why the Muslim and FLDS cultures are so repressive.
To: albrock
This report seems to be incomplete. He's not one of the most wanted for encouraging polygamy, he's on the most wanted list for encouraging poligamy between older men and underage girls by force.
To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Don't forget all the birth defects etc that happens in sects like these either. The children really do suffer in so many ways.
71
posted on
05/11/2006 10:42:48 AM PDT
by
pandoraou812
( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
To: 43north
Thanks for the clarification. I guess that mean I'm "trigonometrical".
To: Emmett McCarthy
Trigonometry is a public-school torture device, or so I hear...
73
posted on
05/11/2006 10:47:20 AM PDT
by
MortMan
(Trains stop at train stations. On my desk is a workstation...)
To: albrock
But you're implying that those born into polygamist families have a choice. The women basically don't have a choice as the religion aspect dictates how they should live their lives, whom they should marry, etc. Girls are, in essence, brainwashed from a very young age and have little contact with the outside world so as to not influence what they are being 'taught' within their religion and families. 13, 14 year old girls being forced to marry men who could be their grandfathers, simply because 'that's the way it is' is backwards and wrong.
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posted on
05/11/2006 11:35:57 AM PDT
by
rintense
To: rintense
Yes, it's true that this happens WITHIN the sect itself. However, outside the sect, in other polygamous communities not affiliated with the FLDS, there is no brainwashing and and 14 yo girls are certainly not arranged to marry 65 yo men. So again, the problem here is Warren Jeffs and his sect, but not all mormons who believe in polygamy.
75
posted on
05/11/2006 11:43:54 AM PDT
by
albrock
To: Cheburashka
1)
"Very few men can afford to support 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 or more wives each with 2, 3, 4, 5 or more children":
OK, but if they can why should you stop them? Furthermore, there are ways. In polygamous communities, the wives do all type of chores. And think about it, if you can be self-sufficient (and many polygamous families nearly are), why then do you need enormous amounts of money? It certainly is possible to maintain such families if you put some thought in it.
2) I smell big-time welfare fraud. And no, welfare fraud is not an alternate lifestyle.:
Granted there's some welfare fraud going on WITHIN the sect, but again if you legalize polygamy welfare fraud will cease to exist. Also, you should remember that polygamous mormon families have existed for centuries, LONG BEFORE welfare existed. It was the mainstream mormon lifestyle until the 19th century, and those families certainly found out a way to progress and to be self-sufficient. Now, I'm not a polygamist and I don't know how they work it out, but they do, and they have in the past, with or without welfare!
76
posted on
05/11/2006 11:54:08 AM PDT
by
albrock
To: albrock
Au contraire. Polygamy should not be legalized. And I say this on the authority of the Bible. King David went and got crazy with around 300 wives. But his son, Soloman, really went hog wild, and bedded down 3 or 4 times that. And the moral is: The sins of the son, WILL ALWAYS be worse than the father, because the son will take many, many more things for granted that the father did not. Any questions, please consult your BIBLE...
To: albrock
"Well to them, God established marriage as a polygamous institution, and polygamy was also "His" intent and purpose... You can't defend this on the basis of religious believes, since that is exactly what you are denying them."
You are proposing a change in our laws, laws based on Christianity.(yes, I can defend that)
I don't see your proposal any differently than I do a Supreme Court Justice citing "International laws" in their opinions.
If it isn't constitutional, its not law.
I have noticed that the attacks on the family, Christianity, societal structure and laws are increasing dramatically.
The bottom line is... if you want to change anything, convince your lawmakers. If you win, you lose.
78
posted on
05/11/2006 2:54:21 PM PDT
by
loboinok
(Gun Control is hitting what you aim at!)
To: loboinok
Last I checked Mormons were also Christians. And yes, of course I'm suggesting a change in our laws, specifically a change in the law that prohibits polygamy; but this law is not based on "Christianity", since to many the Bible defends polygamy.
It's just a law made by lawmakers that can be changed if deemed necessary. And it should.
79
posted on
05/11/2006 3:18:31 PM PDT
by
albrock
To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
I did check and there is no mention in the Bible that polygamy is wrong
80
posted on
05/11/2006 3:50:09 PM PDT
by
albrock
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