Posted on 11/23/2005 8:40:49 AM PST by PJ-Comix
Have you ever noticed how self-righteously outraged liberals become if you DARE to accuse them of being sympathetic to communism? They will accuse you of trying to smear them as well as go into a "How dare you question my patriotism?" mode. However, if you actually READ what the DUmmies and their leftist cohorts actually say to each other on the subject of communism, you will see not only sympathy but flat out LOVE for communism as you can see in this DUmmie THREAD titled, "Why do some people (DU'ers too) think that Communism is the worst?" As usual, the Bolshevik DUmmie postings expressing their sympathy for Bolshevism is in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, watching the spectacle of the Bolshevik DUmmies from the deck of the Battleship Potemkin, is in the [brackets]:
Why do some people (DU'ers too) think that Communism is the worst?
[Yes. Isn't it silly to think ill of communism which is just a progressive alternate economic system?]
Why do some people think it?
[Probably for some stupid reason like a familiarity with history.]
The Crimes of Communism pale in comparison to the Acts of Evil that have been done by Plutocracies and Theocracies.
[In the DUmmie mind we are now living under an EVIL Bush Plutocracy/Theocracy. Ergo, communism is BETTER than what we now have.]
The things that the Far Right are planning are the things that we should be acting against, not screaming and ranting about Communist 'threat'.
I should know, real live Theocrats are trying to take over Ohio!
[They've already taken over the Ohio Diebold voting machines.]
We've got to come together to stop the Far Right, it is the only way we can win.
[Thank you for that entertaining bit of paranoia, DUmmie ck4829. And now let us hear the rest of the DUmmie chorus chime in with their laughable observations about communism...]
We've been a plutocracy for some time now... Have them ask people who lived and worked in the late 40s-80s. Many of them were shocked when reagan's policies started dismantling the stable way of life they all grew up with.
[Ronald Reagan also dismantled the "stable" way of life the communists in Europe grew up with.]
Decades of corporatist conditioning.
[Only decades of coporatist conditioning have brainwashed us into thinking that Stalinist Russia or North Korea under the enlightened Li'l Kim were anything other that Workers' Paradises.]
when has true communism ever been attempted? there have been countries that hve been proclaimed by themselves or others as "communist"...but have any of them really been?
[SIGH! The old leftwing excuse as to why Communist nations have failed. See, there really weren't any communist societies yet so we need to keep experimenting until we we get it right.]
As a history major in the 70's, communist doctrine was historical fact among the professors. We were taught a theoretical understanding of communism, and its dialectics, branches and choices.
At the time the Soviet Union looked extremely strong and countries throughout the world, especially in the Third World were changing to a communist form of government.
To the professors this was seen as inevitable, and to us students it was seen as a positive for the world as a whole. With every professor in the history department a Marxist, we were all pretty indocrinated.
[For the DUmmies, those were the Good Old Days.]
the US right wing has demonized every collective based solution, when those are mainstream in Europe.
[Oh how we envy the French economy!]
communism has been demonised and equated with Stalin and Mao.
[As opposed to the WONDERFUL communism under Li'l Kim and Castro.]
The only place I can think of that it's worked out is Cuba, and that seems more due to the excellence of Cuba itself and Castro than to any theoretical quality in Communism.
[The success of Cuban communism probably explains all those boat people from the States desperately trying to float over to that island paradise.]
Communism as a bogeyman is being supplanted with "Islamism" and "Islamofascism," etc. Same old right-wing BS, just a different name.
[Yeah. Islamofascism is just a myth. All those women in Taliban Afghanistan covered themselves from head to foot in ugly black burkhas because they LIKED it, not because they were forced to.]
i find the charms of democracy highly over rated.
[Then I recommend the charms of Pyongyang.]
Another pet peeve of mine is people dressed in black, at rallies, with the hammer and sickle on their clothes. How much of an asshole do you have to be?
[Anti-Communism in DUmmieland but only because he doesn't like their sense of fashion. You would prefer they wear pastel pants and a Che T-Shirt?]
It was the greatest American Brainwashing next to the War on Terrer that our government has ever promulgated on it's citizenry. American Citizens have had the dreaded "Commie Pinko " - "better dead than red" pounded into our collective psyches for over a half century.
[We were brainwashed into believing that Uncle Joe Stalin was something other than a warm hearted human being.]
Every communist society has turned to shit. Every one.
[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]
If a democracy is communist, there is nothing inherently wrong.
[And where did that fantasy society ever happen?]
I don't know if communism is better than what we have. What I do know is that with all that relentless propaganda, "they" sure didn't want me to EVER consider communism except to condemn it. WHY did "they" never want me to think of communism except to condemn it? Hmmmm. Wonder what they were hiding about communism? And why they were so threatened by it?
[You caught us!!! Okay, I confess. All these years we have been hiding from you DUmmies just how WUUUNDERFUL communism is. Therefore we shall make amends by ensuring that you can move to the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea. So take the one-way flight to Pyonyang. Go ahead. You'll LOVE it there. I promise.]
I hate revisionist history.
There is an excellent book on the subject of Communist photo manipulation (as well as Nazi manipulation): Making People Disappear : An Amazing Chronicle of Photographic Deception (Intelligence & National Security Library) by A. Jaubert.
Unfortunately, I seem to see many more copies of The Commissar Vanishes by David King which looks quite similar but omits the chapter on North Vietnamese propaganda (and I think the one on Cuban communist propaganda). I guess it isn't PC to point out flaws under those commies.
"when has true communism ever been attempted?"
That's one of the most fundamental problems inherent with socialism and specifically communism; the idea that it has failed only because it hasn't been properly applied.
LOL...good one!
Why not? Their professors couldn't have been wrong, could they?
The horror! Just keep him out of the choir!:)
That's a stretch, but I'll take your word for it.
;OD
"We've got to establish a Socialist economic structure that will limit private profit-oriented businesses."
"Except for the entertainment industry, of course. Someone has to be in charge to tell all the equal, little people what to do."
Interesting. Thanks.
Understand that Communism in America can only come from the overthrow of our constitutional form of government and you'll have a good start at rebutting any arguments they present.
If the DUmmies want to live under communism, why don't they frickin' move? Oh, I see, they know what's best for us and want ALL OF US living under communism.
The lines just keep getting longer and I wouldn't be able to stand it.
Of course one can only arrive at this conclusion when they view a vibrant economy as an evil and murder by the tens of millions as acceptable.
i find the charms of democracy highly over rated.
And further down the post one indicated just such a shift...they don't care for the "charms" of democracy...that vibrant economy.
I've never questioned their patriotism to Karl Marx.
One event that was covered by both books was the relocation of a large number of Ukrainian to an island in a river in Siberia. They were dropped off with no food, clothes, tools or means to survive and told to chop wood. They didn't have any saws or axes. Most of the people died of starvation or exposure. Black Book did a better job of describing the event.
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I've never questioned their loyalty to Karl Marx.
I was pretty much just making a follow-up joke about the Pulitzers, but I will look for the book.
WE ARE DOING WELL!
Of course one can only arrive at this conclusion when they view a vibrant economy as an evil and murder by the tens of millions as acceptable.
45 million dead babies from abortion and they champion murder as a "right".
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