Posted on 11/23/2005 8:40:49 AM PST by PJ-Comix
Have you ever noticed how self-righteously outraged liberals become if you DARE to accuse them of being sympathetic to communism? They will accuse you of trying to smear them as well as go into a "How dare you question my patriotism?" mode. However, if you actually READ what the DUmmies and their leftist cohorts actually say to each other on the subject of communism, you will see not only sympathy but flat out LOVE for communism as you can see in this DUmmie THREAD titled, "Why do some people (DU'ers too) think that Communism is the worst?" As usual, the Bolshevik DUmmie postings expressing their sympathy for Bolshevism is in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, watching the spectacle of the Bolshevik DUmmies from the deck of the Battleship Potemkin, is in the [brackets]:
Why do some people (DU'ers too) think that Communism is the worst?
[Yes. Isn't it silly to think ill of communism which is just a progressive alternate economic system?]
Why do some people think it?
[Probably for some stupid reason like a familiarity with history.]
The Crimes of Communism pale in comparison to the Acts of Evil that have been done by Plutocracies and Theocracies.
[In the DUmmie mind we are now living under an EVIL Bush Plutocracy/Theocracy. Ergo, communism is BETTER than what we now have.]
The things that the Far Right are planning are the things that we should be acting against, not screaming and ranting about Communist 'threat'.
I should know, real live Theocrats are trying to take over Ohio!
[They've already taken over the Ohio Diebold voting machines.]
We've got to come together to stop the Far Right, it is the only way we can win.
[Thank you for that entertaining bit of paranoia, DUmmie ck4829. And now let us hear the rest of the DUmmie chorus chime in with their laughable observations about communism...]
We've been a plutocracy for some time now... Have them ask people who lived and worked in the late 40s-80s. Many of them were shocked when reagan's policies started dismantling the stable way of life they all grew up with.
[Ronald Reagan also dismantled the "stable" way of life the communists in Europe grew up with.]
Decades of corporatist conditioning.
[Only decades of coporatist conditioning have brainwashed us into thinking that Stalinist Russia or North Korea under the enlightened Li'l Kim were anything other that Workers' Paradises.]
when has true communism ever been attempted? there have been countries that hve been proclaimed by themselves or others as "communist"...but have any of them really been?
[SIGH! The old leftwing excuse as to why Communist nations have failed. See, there really weren't any communist societies yet so we need to keep experimenting until we we get it right.]
As a history major in the 70's, communist doctrine was historical fact among the professors. We were taught a theoretical understanding of communism, and its dialectics, branches and choices.
At the time the Soviet Union looked extremely strong and countries throughout the world, especially in the Third World were changing to a communist form of government.
To the professors this was seen as inevitable, and to us students it was seen as a positive for the world as a whole. With every professor in the history department a Marxist, we were all pretty indocrinated.
[For the DUmmies, those were the Good Old Days.]
the US right wing has demonized every collective based solution, when those are mainstream in Europe.
[Oh how we envy the French economy!]
communism has been demonised and equated with Stalin and Mao.
[As opposed to the WONDERFUL communism under Li'l Kim and Castro.]
The only place I can think of that it's worked out is Cuba, and that seems more due to the excellence of Cuba itself and Castro than to any theoretical quality in Communism.
[The success of Cuban communism probably explains all those boat people from the States desperately trying to float over to that island paradise.]
Communism as a bogeyman is being supplanted with "Islamism" and "Islamofascism," etc. Same old right-wing BS, just a different name.
[Yeah. Islamofascism is just a myth. All those women in Taliban Afghanistan covered themselves from head to foot in ugly black burkhas because they LIKED it, not because they were forced to.]
i find the charms of democracy highly over rated.
[Then I recommend the charms of Pyongyang.]
Another pet peeve of mine is people dressed in black, at rallies, with the hammer and sickle on their clothes. How much of an asshole do you have to be?
[Anti-Communism in DUmmieland but only because he doesn't like their sense of fashion. You would prefer they wear pastel pants and a Che T-Shirt?]
It was the greatest American Brainwashing next to the War on Terrer that our government has ever promulgated on it's citizenry. American Citizens have had the dreaded "Commie Pinko " - "better dead than red" pounded into our collective psyches for over a half century.
[We were brainwashed into believing that Uncle Joe Stalin was something other than a warm hearted human being.]
Every communist society has turned to shit. Every one.
[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]
If a democracy is communist, there is nothing inherently wrong.
[And where did that fantasy society ever happen?]
I don't know if communism is better than what we have. What I do know is that with all that relentless propaganda, "they" sure didn't want me to EVER consider communism except to condemn it. WHY did "they" never want me to think of communism except to condemn it? Hmmmm. Wonder what they were hiding about communism? And why they were so threatened by it?
[You caught us!!! Okay, I confess. All these years we have been hiding from you DUmmies just how WUUUNDERFUL communism is. Therefore we shall make amends by ensuring that you can move to the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea. So take the one-way flight to Pyonyang. Go ahead. You'll LOVE it there. I promise.]
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In the Taliban's Afghanistan, women could not get gynecological care. See, women were prohibited from showing themselves to a male gyno, but women gynos were prohibited from practicing medicine.
Just a right-wing BS bogeman, huh?
On the other hand, the Soviet Union was famous for the $3 abortion (it was a sliding scale: somewhere between free and three bucks), so there's little doubt why the reactionary left loves them so much.
Oh, I don't know. Little things, I suppose: Not being able to enjoy the fruits of one's labors; lack of incentive; bad economy; government control of all aspects of life; suppression of freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of association, and freedom of religion; widespread corruption; brutal murderous treatment of dissidents; human rights violations; the KGB; gulags. . . .
Like I say, little things, but they add up. Maybe I'm nitpicking.
Welll....what are you waiting for? Castro needs sugar-cane cutters NOW!!! They'll work you to death and may God have mercy on you if you complain, but hey, you'll have free health care! Your health care just won't be as good as what Castro gets.....
Communism as a bogeyman is being supplanted with "Islamism" and "Islamofascism," etc. Same old right-wing BS, just a different name.
That why his excellence Fidel 'el caballo' grovelled for absolution before JPII. Now, with a clean slate I understand he's converting to Islam.
Is there a Li'l Kim doll available in stores? Would love to own one.
LOL!
Good one PJ!
Happy Thanksgiving..
Dummies are DUMB about communism,too..Hmmm no shock there.
Stalin and Mao have slain their millions, but Bush, Bush . . . well, come to think of it, Bush hasn't slain ANY of his own people. Whoa! We'll have to rethink that one. . . .
It's funny. Our Russian roommate was reading the DUmmie comments over my shoulder. She got an attitude in a hurry. She's old enough to remember the "wonders" of communism.
She says that they should try spending a half day standing in line to buy a loaf of bread that costs a half weeks pay. Or they could try to complain and find themselves yanked out of line to go home and be hungry.
JANE FONDA on communism:
On November 21, 1970 she told a University of Michigan audience of some two thousand students, "If you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would some day become communist." At Duke University in North Carolina she repeated what she had said in Michigan, adding "I, a socialist, think that we should strive toward a socialist society, all the way to communism. " Washington Times July 7, 2000
On July 18, 1970, the People's World, the West Coast's Communist Party publication, carried a telephone interview with Fonda in which she said: "To make the revolution in the United States is a slow day by day job that requires patience and discipline. It is the only way to make it. . . . All I know is that despite the fact that I am one of the people who benefit from a capitalist society, I find that any system which exploits other people cannot and should not exist."
Fonda made the following statement at the University of Texas: "We've got to establish a Socialist economic structure that will limit private profit-oriented businesses. Whether the transition is peaceful depends on the way our present governmental leaders react. We must commit our lives to this transition ...... We should be very proud of our new breed of soldier. It's not organized but it's mutiny, and they have every right." Karen Elliott Dallas Morning News December 11, 1971
And goodboy is first in their sights! They're gonna wash his mouth out with soap, dress him in a nice little suit, and make him go to church every Sunday.
I would also recommend Gulag by Anne Applebaum. Despite being a Pulitzer prize winner it is still very informational.
Almost as great as the War on Ferrer! :0)
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