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Posted on 10/17/2005 2:10:20 PM PDT by HopefulPatriot
This is important because of the series of articles that is going to be posted to this forum over the coming days and weeks. The stated objective of this series is the complete restoration of the Constitution of the United States as written and formally amended rather than as corrupted and circumvented by Congress, the President, and the federal judiciary, especially the Supreme Court. When this series is completed and posted in its entirety, it should be clear to all that no one has ever put forth any effort or plan that has more potential to achieve the goal. Countless conservatives, including President Reagan and Newt Gingrich have all tried and yet the goal still eludes us. As this plan unfolds, you will see that it takes the best parts of what these giants have put forward and targets them on a slightly different track. It is this different track, one that targets some Republicans for defeat in the Republican primaries and replacement with more conservative candidates, that compels me to call to your attention some forum experiences of the past for discussion.
As far as short term governance goals are concerned, it is difficult to disagree with JimRobinson's statement that any Republican is better than any Democrat, a philosophy shared by President Reagan who authored the Eleventh Commandment of Republican politics. It is self-evident why replacing a socialistic Republican with a Constitutional conservative is an improvement, but this series will help you to understand why it should be acceptable to risk losing a socialistic Republican's seat, even to a Democrat, as part of an intermediate step that moves the entire Republican Party itself substantially to the right. This is especially true where the politics of the district itself make it probable that the seat will be recovered in subsequent elections. An old Russian parable, some reasonably recent events and the current status of the Constitution offer some testimony to support our plea to allow this plan to be presented in its entirety.
The Parable:
One bright clear morning after a winter snow storm, a Russian peasant farmer came out of the house to find a small bird lying on his porch. He picked it up for discarding, but realized the bird was still alive. Touched by the small bird's spark of life, he put the bird in his pocket to go about his morning chores. As he entered the barnyard, he saw a fresh warm and still steaming cow patty. He took the bird out of his pocket and put it carefully into the cow patty, mounding it up around the bird to get the maximum effect of its warmth and then left to do his farm work. Soon the warmth revived the bird. But the mounding was too tight and the bird was unable to escape the patty's confines. Thrilled at just being alive on such a beautiful morning after a life threatening night the bird began to sing. A nearby fox heard the bird and quickly located the patty. The fox removed the bird, cleaned it and ate it. Now there are three morals to this story, but it is the first moral with which we are primarily concerned:
1. It is not always your enemies that put you in it.
2. It is not always your friends that get you out.
3. And when you are in it up to your neck, for your own sake, keep your mouth shut.
Recent Events:
Campaign Finance Reform, Medicare Prescription Drugs, pork-filled farm and transportation bills, and blank checks for damage control suggest that not only the Republican leadership, but also some rank and file Republican members of Congress could stand some scrutiny, if not criticism and maybe consideration for replacement. It is the socialists among us that pose the greatest threat to our Constitution and our freedoms. And we would suggest that the recent events above indicate that there are well entrenched enemies that reside within our own gates. Giving them a free pass is not very different from sitting down to supper with Judas. Cleaning house begins at home. Until our own house is in order, taking on the socialists in the Democratic Party sends a mixed message to those in the middle who do not know which way to turn.
The Constitution can be restored. In spite of the fact that the socialists have been progressively pushing our country away from the Constitution for almost a century, the Constitution can be restored in less than a decade. Ronald Reagan's legitimate legacy was an American-led global renaissance. Under current laws that are incontrovertibly unconstitutional, but nevertheless sanctioned by a Court and Congress that have been relentlessly usurping power and limiting freedom for the past 70 years, instead of a renaissance, the United States could be facing bankruptcy. According to the Gokhale-Smetters projections, the net present value of the unfunded liabilities of Medicare and Social Security already equals or exceeds the estimated total private (combined corporate and individual) net worth of the United States. The Gokhale-Smetters liabilities do not begin to mature until the fall of 2008, but the combined net cash flow of government, corporate America, and all US Households (America Inc if you will) is already negative. The United States currently has to borrow $2.5 billion dollars every day from the rest of the world in order to maintain current standards of living and still service existing debt. American jobs are being outsourced because we do not have the sufficient savings and investment needed to maintain the growth in productivity that has allowed us to maintain the competitive advantage we have previously enjoyed against the cheap labor markets that have always existed in the past. History is unambiguous. All democracies end in bankruptcy or hyperinflation whenever the public learns to vote itself benefits from the public treasury. The Gokhale-Smetters projections clearly show that by 2016, ours could easily be on the brink.
It is not too late to make the Reagan Renaissance a reality. With JimRobinson's blessing and Free Republic's help, men cut from the same mold as Ronald Reagan and the Founders can be recruited to replace Rockefeller Republicans and other RINOs. The Constitution can be restored and we are going to show you how Freepers can become the catalyst that makes it possible.
Congressman Billybob
Seems like you have overlooked and misunderestimated the american female ditz factor.. not all but MOST..
Just watched Oprah, I know BONK BONK bad boy, and she had Gena Whatever on talking about the new TV show Commander and Chief.. The subliminal brain wash has begun.. Discount it at your own peril.. You must think life is fair.. or whatever goes around comes around.. its not and it don't.. If so Sandy Burgular would in jail.. or waiting to be lynched.. or both..
Republicans being over confident like you specified above.. are NOW IN DEEP DENIAL.. In 2000 almost half the american republic voted for the known moron Al Gore.. even democrats know and knew hes is/was a moron.. Hillary is NO MORON.. And a big portion of them voted in 2004 for a known war criminal, Poseur, and Gigolo(sKerry).. and but for the Swift Boat guys he(SKerry) might very well have been elected..
Lieberman might even have won..
Suggest: SLAPing yerself a couple of times HARD, and re-evaluating.. it could work..
Outstanding! Bring it on! Let's roll!
Many tanks for the ping!
Thank you.
However: Given that our parasitical political classless have so successfully reversed our nation's Constitutional direction and have restructured America's Founding Law to replace we the People with they the political, judicial and [Much-more-insidiously and efficaciously-FRankensteinian] bureaucratic Tyrants; any effort is doomed to failure that bypasses as the first essential step of our struggle to FRee and to restore the United States Republic, the imposition of Term Limits upon all feral politicians. [And judges and, especially, upon bureaucrats]
And any 'idea' that descends from the premise that a FRee Republic is to be found among any existing political, judicial and/or bureaucratic structure and/or organisation is as delusionally fantastic as is the false premise from which it seeks to descend.
And thems the facts.
Blessings -- Brian
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[Mind you, Missis Blythe-KKli'ton is not your average common-garden, dangerous-dullard, Al-FRedo GoreLeone moron -- but is, in fact, a full-blown lying, looting, thieving, mass-murdering, psychopathologically-predatory, co-serial-raping, [Any-old] gangster-bastards'-moll moron!]
And thats on a good day.. but the b!tch is no moron..
Only a fool thinks so..
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To disprove this premise, I merely cite a counterexample: hillary clinton. Imagine how much better, how much safer the world would be today if Rick Lazio... or Rudy Giuliani... had won in 2000. Alternatively, imagine the clintons controlling the Senate.... Now imagine how much better, how much safer the world would be if the rapist had lost in 92'... of even in '96.... So while the premise is untenable post-9/11, (we no longer have the cushion of time or circumstance to survive a clinton... or even the generic Democrat), given modern, real-world conditions, it is also demonstrably unexceptable anytime, witness the clinton 'presidency.'
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"I remember exactly what happened. Bruce Lindsey said to me on the phone, 'My God, a second plane has hit the tower.' And I said, 'Bin Laden did this.' that's the first thing I said. He said, 'How can you be sure?' I said 'Because only bin Laden and the Iranians could set up the network to do this and they [the Iranians] wouldn't do it because they have a country in targets. Bin Laden did it.' I thought that my virtual obsession with him was well placed and I was full of regret that I didn't get him." bill clinton |
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"Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in '91 and he went to the Sudan. We'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him [bin Laden]. So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have; but they thought it was a hot potato. They didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan." bill clinton |
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Your arguments make the mistake of assuming that you know what this series is going to be about and then you make an even more flawed second assumption. Your arguments imply that the people will get their just deserts and learn their mistake of letting Hillary have the helm. Nothing could be further from the truth. I have been privileged to have had an advance look at the series. It is not about Presidential politics at all. Your discussion is based on Presidential politics and defense. Such a presumption ignores the Constitutional divisions of power. The President doesn't make law; Congress does. The series is going to be focused on repealing unconstitutional laws. One way of changing the law would be to change the lawmakers. This series is going to show you how and why both political parties can quickly be moved substantially to the right. It is also going to show you how conservatives can come to control Congress.
Most authors, and in turn their readers, write and think of the federal government as being composed of three co-equal branches where co-equal describes the balance of power between them. In truth, the legislative branch holds a power edge. It is not an accident that the Constitution begins with a discussion of the powers delegated to Congress. And it is not an accident that the power of Congress is divided amongst a very large number of representatives and Senators where the power of the executive and judicial branches are divided to a much more limited extent. Allay your fears. This series is not going to have anything to do with letting a Democrat in the Whitehouse teach us a lesson we will never forget. Nothing could be farther from the truth.
You appear to have an intimacy with FReepers that exceeds your 10/15/05 sign up date. What is your other screenname and why are you not using it for this post?
Who is Oprah? Maybe you should be slapping yourself.
The high percentage that Gore & Effin got certainly is scary. But I'll maintain that they - and especially Hillary are unelectable nationwide.
We have the beautiful Electoral College that will prevent such disasters. I suggest you pull out the red map of Bush's last victory, county by county and explain how The Shrill could ever win.
There is a reason dems like to refer to the 'popular vote' when in reality there is no such thing.
Also, this "ditz" factor you mention is indeed out there and it may even be growing in areas - but be assured it is not limited to females.
The hillary counterexample I cite is hillary in the Senate, not the White House...
(I grant you, it is a distinction without a difference in this case.)
I'm not certain the neat little power differential you describe survives the new power asymmetry paradigm so well exploited by terrorism.
We must rethink all the old assumptions, in my view. We must make the right decisions for TODAY or there may not BE a tomorrow.
IMO, any restoration of the Constitution has to include the acknowledgement that the federal government (including the federal court system) that was created by the Constitution, cannot be the sole and final judge of the extent of federal powers under the Constitution. The people, through their state legislatures, created the federal government and delegated it certain powers in the Constitution...it only makes sense that the states themselves have to be the final judges of whether the feds have exceeded those powers
The government created by this compact was not made the exclusive or final judge of the extent of the powers delegated to itself, since that would have made its discretion and not the Constitution the measure of its powers; but... as in all other cases of compact among powers having no common judge, each party has an equal right to judge for itself, as well of infractions as of the mode and measure of redress.
--Thomas Jefferson
Good, then the fact this series is about making Congress much more conservative by defeating socialists should fit your political objectives.
"..terrorism. We must rethink all the old assumptions, in my view. We must make the right decisions for TODAY or there may not BE a tomorrow."
So far in the entire history of terroism including the worst terrorist attack in US history and including two Iraqi wars, there have been fewer American deaths at the hands of terrorists than there are annual murders where Americans kill Americans. It can be argued we have a lot more to fear from American murderers than from the terrorists. In fact there are annually nearly ten times as many suicides as there have been deaths from terrorists in our entire 200+ years of history. I am not belittling you on the significance of the War on Terror, but rather trying to establish some balance. The United States is not going to be brought down by some camel jockeys or goat herders in the middle east. But as you are going to see, the threat of being destroyed from within by the socialists among us is a far more realistic threat.
And the final point that I would make, is that a strong defense depends on nation having strong finances. Socialism is financially bleeding us to death. Getting our fiscal house and our economy on a strong sound financial footing is essential if we are to maintain a sound defense. I would argue that conservatives gaining control of Congress could be the most important step to securing our borders and our defense systems.
We invite you to come aboard this journey, even as a skeptical passenger. I think the overwhelming majority of Freepers should find this to be a fascinating and enjoyable trip. Even more importantly, no one will think they have been taken for a ride.
Let me address that. We the people are the source of the power delegated to not only the federal government, but state and local governments as well. As the source of the power delegated to the federal government under the Constitution, it follows that We the people are the final arbiters of its interpretation. As you are going to see as this series unfolds, We the people must and hopefully will assume the vital role of exercising our Constitutional perogatives if our Republic is to be restored and preserved.
Ping!
BTTT!!!!!!!!
Surely, as Rebelbase said, "you...have an intimacy with FReepers that exceeds your 10/15/05 sign up date."
Nonsense.
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