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War of the Worlds screenwriter says Martians slaughtering humans are metaphore for U.S. military
Larry Elder Talk Radio Show on KABC AM 790 Los Angeles ^ | Tuesday, July 19, 2005 | Larry Elder

Posted on 07/19/2005 5:35:21 PM PDT by FraudFactor.com

War of the Worlds screenwriter David Koepp admits political propaganda in movie

KABC talk show host Larry Elder said today that David Koepp, one of the two War of the Worlds screenwriters, stated in a recent interview for a Canadian publication that the Martians slaughtering the humans are a metaphor for the adventurism of the American military forces, i.e., for the Bush Administration's war on terrorism, and the human civilians are a metaphor for the Iraqi people. He stated that this is going back to the original H. G. Wells book upon which the movie is loosely based.

However, the original story took place in England, and as Larry Elder pointed out, the book was written in the late eighteen hundreds (first published in 1898) at a time when British imperialism was at its peak, when the British Empire had authority over one out of every four human beings on Earth. Clearly, the United States is not an imperialist country, especially when compared to England, France, Spain, Portugal, Russia, and the communist Soviet Union, Turkey/The Ottoman Empire, and the Arab Muslims.

One of Larry Elder's callers pointed out that we should expect leftist political propaganda in any movie directed by Steven Spielberg and including actor Tim Robbins, an outspoken critic of the Bush administration.

Tim Robbins played a survivalist named Ogilvy, who is the Hollywood-left's stereotype for a conservative - a distasteful "red neck" character portrayed as a crazy shotgun-wielding suspected child molester. He was in one of the two anti-gun scenes in the movie. This is another example of the bigotry of the Hollywood-left.


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KEYWORDS: antibush; anticonservative; antimilitary; antiwar; davidkoepp; hollywood; larryelder; left; leftist; movie; propaganda; review; rogerebert; screenwriter; socialistdemocrats; waroftheworlds
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When we see leftist political propaganda in movies and television, including negative stereotypes, language, messages, and symbolism, the rational conclusion is that it is there on purpose and not by accident. It is there with the specific intent of manipulating or "shaping" public opinion to influence election outcomes and to change societal norms.

If the propaganda were there by accident, based on random chance, then we would expect approximately 50 percent of the bias to favor conservatives, rather than 90 to 100 percent favoring leftists and unfairly and dishonestly attacking conservatives. This is the same as if you are always short-changed. This is not a random error or bias. You are being cheated if you are not given comparable amounts of extra change half the time there is an error.

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1 posted on 07/19/2005 5:35:30 PM PDT by FraudFactor.com
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To: FraudFactor.com

His movie bombed


2 posted on 07/19/2005 5:36:39 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: FraudFactor.com

I guess this clown is unaware of the fact that when H.G. Wells wrote the book it was considered a metaphor for a war between England and Germany.


3 posted on 07/19/2005 5:37:41 PM PDT by Armigerous ( Non permitte illegitimi te carborundum- "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: FraudFactor.com
the two anti-gun scenes

well, i suppose if you are anti-gun, a virus will have to do on the occasion that you are invaded by martians. that's peaceful and loving and non-violent.

man, these doofuses blow.

4 posted on 07/19/2005 5:38:55 PM PDT by wildwood
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To: Armigerous

Frankly, I liked the original with Gene Barry. This new one sounds like a clunker.


5 posted on 07/19/2005 5:41:13 PM PDT by asp1
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To: bnelson44
His movie bombed

I wish I had a $449million bomb on my resume. (Not including future box office, DVD and TV income.)

Yeah. REAL big bomb.

6 posted on 07/19/2005 5:41:21 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Dean won't call Osama guilty without a trial, but DeLay and Rove should be in jail)
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To: asp1
I read this idiot's BS about the script being about us in Iraq a few weeks ago and simply put it out of my mind while I watched. As a huge fan of the original, I have to admit this one is far superior--it's closer to the book, the FX are great, and I was just drawn into the movie.

I don't go to movies for the fool moviemakers's political "thoughts" since I assume they're all libs, anyway. But the movie itself was terrific.

7 posted on 07/19/2005 5:42:56 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Dean won't call Osama guilty without a trial, but DeLay and Rove should be in jail)
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To: wildwood
"metaphor for U.S. military"

Treason is not difficult to define. Treason is when your country is at war and you want the other side to win. If America is like evil invading Martians, then we are evil and should be destroyed.

I am so glad that I didn't go see this film and never will now. We have got to stop feeding the beast even if we can't stop it.
8 posted on 07/19/2005 5:46:40 PM PDT by garjog
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To: Darkwolf377

I wish I had a $449million bomb on my resume. (Not including future box office, DVD and TV income.)

Yeah. REAL big bomb."

Production Budget: was $132 million. I don't know what the marketing cost was. But $449 million gross (given all they hype) does not give them much profit once you subtract the marketing costs and overhead.


9 posted on 07/19/2005 5:47:26 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: wildwood
the two anti-gun scenes

well, i suppose if you are anti-gun, a virus will have to do on the occasion that you are invaded by martians. that's peaceful and loving and non-violent.

man, these doofuses blow.
Actually, there are two explicit anti-gun scenes, plus the overall anti-gun (and anti-military) theme where the military weapons are useless against the aliens (presumably Martians), but simple bacterial or viruses do the job. Note that this occurs through "Mother Nature", rather than biological warfare. What a missed opportunity to improve a bad movie!

One explicit anti-gun scene involves the shotgun-wielding survivalist. The other is the scene involving handguns where the car that Tom Cruise stole is stolen from him.

10 posted on 07/19/2005 5:52:40 PM PDT by FraudFactor.com (Support redistricting reform to end gerrymandering and achieve more honest and responsive government)
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To: Darkwolf377
Awwwww shoot!...There went my day. ;o)

I will have to wait for the DVD. Because I never, but never go to the movies anymore. Thanks, Darkwolf377, I will give it try.

11 posted on 07/19/2005 5:53:14 PM PDT by asp1
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To: bnelson44

A cruise missile that veered off course.


12 posted on 07/19/2005 5:56:34 PM PDT by xp38
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To: bnelson44

War of the Worlds or Snore of the Worlds movie?


War of the Worlds or Snore of the Worlds movie?


Here is an example of their expensive marketing, with some improvements (added to the photo, of course - we are not leftists who destroy other people's property!)

13 posted on 07/19/2005 5:59:51 PM PDT by FraudFactor.com (Support redistricting reform to end gerrymandering and achieve more honest and responsive government)
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To: bnelson44

IMDB is showing a gross of 192 million for War of the Worlds as of the July 15 week. Is 449 million a world wide gross?


14 posted on 07/19/2005 6:02:01 PM PDT by xp38
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To: FraudFactor.com
One explicit anti-gun scene involves the shotgun-wielding survivalist. The other is the scene involving handguns where the car that Tom Cruise stole is stolen from him.

I saw the movie, have read the book and love the 1953 version of the movie. I disagree that the scenes you have described are "anti gun". I took the scene with the survivalist to show that often times violence is the only way to assure survival. I did not see it as anti gun. As for the car scene, it said to me, don't go into a hostile environment with a lack of sufficient firepower.

I believe that I am as sensitive to Leftist propoganda as the next and did not find the movie as anti military. The US fighting forces were shown to be doing their job, fighting with great bravery against overwhelming odds. The reason their weapons were no good against the invaders is central to the theme of the book and the 1953 movie.

15 posted on 07/19/2005 6:04:37 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (Never draw to an inside straight.)
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To: xp38
A Tomahawk Cruise missile that veered off course?



16 posted on 07/19/2005 6:04:37 PM PDT by FraudFactor.com (Support redistricting reform to end gerrymandering and achieve more honest and responsive government)
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To: xp38

"Is 449 million a world wide gross?"

yes


17 posted on 07/19/2005 6:09:54 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: FraudFactor.com
The Islamic world thinks we are decadent and that's Hollywood's fault in large measure.

Just another reason NOT to spend my entertainment dollars on Hollywood and it's ANTI-AMERICAN majority.

18 posted on 07/19/2005 6:12:09 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Liberal Reporter)
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To: bnelson44

Haven't seen the movie, but one review described how the alien whatevers were blowing buildings and occupants to smitherines at random, then, when the liberal shows up, they start going door to door. What does that signify?


19 posted on 07/19/2005 6:15:12 PM PDT by Ilky Hucktar
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To: FraudFactor.com
did you think it was a bad movie?

i am a movie buff and was dying to go see it, but decided not to for a number of reasons, including the facts that i 1) despise tom cruise 2) despise scientology 3) did not want to relive 9/11 4) caught wind of this anti-American bias 5) did not want to see scads of people squished 6) felt the anxiety of seeing it would depress me for days.

i see it dropped to 4th place last weekend.

20 posted on 07/19/2005 6:16:39 PM PDT by wildwood
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