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TROLLS ZOTTED: Parents, District Fighting Off Law Suit about Banning the Declaration of Independence
Cupertino Courier ^ | 2/2/05 | Alison Rost

Posted on 02/06/2005 12:53:31 PM PST by Cupertino Mom

... the district filed a motion on Jan. 31 to dismiss the lawsuit. The district said in the motion that there's no factual evidence to back Williams' claim that his constitutional rights were violated. The motion also countered Williams' argument that he and his lesson plans were singled out for review by Principal Patricia Vidmar because of his religion. The motion stated that parental complaints prompted the actions.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; US: California; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: adf; alliancedefense; bushbasher; churchandstate; cupertino; cupertinoschool; declarationbanned; hippietrash; stevenscreek; troll; wetheparents; zot
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The parents of Stevens Creek School, the school accused of banning the Declaration of Independence, have united in We The Parents to correct the lies in the media about our school that unleashed an avalanche of threatening and profane of hate messages. Two sheriffs patrolled the school daily for 2 months. Please see our web site, http://www.SevensCreekParents.org for the truth about Stevens Creek School. The Declaration was not banned; not only is taught by all 5th grade teachers, it appears in the 5th grade text book and on posters in the school. Even the ADF has back-peddled in their recent press release (http://www.eriposte.com/philosophy/fundamentalism/stevenscreek.htm).
1 posted on 02/06/2005 12:53:31 PM PST by Cupertino Mom
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To: Cupertino Mom

liberals love nothing more than hating Christians


2 posted on 02/06/2005 12:57:16 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (I believe in American Exceptionalism! Do you?)
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To: Cupertino Mom
If what the "we the parents" say is correct, then why was the teacher disciplined?
3 posted on 02/06/2005 1:01:19 PM PST by roylene
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To: Cupertino Mom
"FUNDAMENTALISM

Far-Right fundamentalists launch intimidation campaign against Stevens Creek Elementary School Principal in Cupertino, CA
- Far Right group files lawsuit against the Principal and the Cupertino Union School District"

I am intrigued by your web site..far right fundamentalists..good grief..you mean those who may be Christian and believe in the constitution as original intent are extremists.
What about the whiny parents who do not believe in the constitution or teaching its original premise.

My original question still applies..if what is said by the 'we the parents' is correct..why is the teacher being persecuted?
4 posted on 02/06/2005 1:09:52 PM PST by roylene
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To: Cupertino Mom
SPUE (Society for the Prevention of Unnecessary Excerpting; check the list) to the rescue once again:
The lawsuit that Stephen Williams brought against the Cupertino Union School District was filed in Oakland, but the firestorm surrounding it was centered squarely over the Stevens Creek Elementary School community. While the district has finally broken its silence on the matter by filing a motion to dismiss the lawsuit, parents are going a step further. They're fighting back in the same arena that produced the firestorm - the media.

Incensed by widely reported claims that Stevens Creek has banned the Declaration of Independence, an organization called We the Parents is trying to restore Stevens Creek's reputation. At a forum held on Jan. 24, parents - as well as several Stevens Creek teachers - discussed the school's history curriculum for community members and the news media.

In addition, We the Parents has sent an open letter to the Alliance Defense Fund, which is providing Williams' legal representation and published the case's initial press release. The letter requests that the fund retract its misleading statements and apologize for their effects - the school received 3,000 irate phone calls and messages and has increased security patrols to ensure students' safety.

"Our goal is merely to present our side of the story," said Maria Segal, one of the forum's organizers. "We're concerned with the depiction of our school. Many parents would have been happy not to say anything if it weren't for ADF."

About 60 people attended the forum at Quinlan Community Center on the evening of Jan. 24. After an introduction by Nathalie Schuler Ferro, one of the group's founders, the forum kicked off with a presentation of the group's website, located at www.stevenscreekparents.org. The site features photos of the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution hanging in Stevens Creek's Guided Learning Center. It has received up to 17,000 hits a day.

Fifth-grade teachers Sara Beetem and Amy Vedunas then discussed their social studies curriculum - Vedunas held up a copy of A New Nation, the history textbook used by all of the grade schools in Cupertino Union. The book is based on California state standards. Beetem also gave a presentation on Stevens Creek's Living History Days, which give the school's 118 fifth-graders the chance to impersonate explorers or Revolutionary War participants for a day. The Revolutionary War exercise involves an overnight stay in tents on the school's back lawn.

"I learned a ton of stuff about the Revolutionary War that I did not know before," said John Bartas, editor of the group's website, who has volunteered for Living History Days. "I have no recollection of doing anything like this when I was in school."

Ferro said that this was the point - to give the parent's point of view on the school's offerings. That opinion was an overwhelmingly positive one, told to an audience that included many Stevens Creek parents, but also several older members of the community. "There are other members of the community who are older and don't have children in the district any more, but they have consistently gone to board meetings. But the board can't talk about the lawsuit," Ferro said. "We wanted to assuage their fears."

She added that the response to the forum was surprising. We the Parents couldn't advertise the forum on school grounds, but managed to attract more people than Ferro expected. The invitation was also extended to members of the local media, but not to outlets like the Fox News Channel, which brought conservative talk show Hannity & Colmes to the Flint Center on Dec. 8.

However, national media attention on the lawsuit is still alive and kicking. Ferro said she recently escorted New Yorker writer Peter Boyer around Cupertino and he expressed surprise at seeing a number of churches in what he had heard was a "heathen" town. On Jan. 12, Katie Couric interviewed former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, who made a reference to a California high school where a teacher was prohibited from handing out the Declaration of Independence.

The perpetuation of the claim that the Declaration of Independence has been outlawed prompted We the Parents to send an open letter to Alliance Defense Fund, asking it to retract the original press release, which can still be found on the fund's website through an Internet search. The letter also asked the fund to issue a public apology. "While you may not have directly contacted the many people who felt compelled to vent their hostility toward our principal and school, we believe your organization is nonetheless responsible," the letter said.

"We want to make the point that they lied," Ferro added. "Any one of those 3,000 people [who sent messages to the school] could have come in with an AK-47. We wanted to place the responsibility of those 3,000 threats on their shoulders."

In response, ADF issued a statement blaming the media for misrepresenting its initial press release and condemning those who threatened the school.

"... such crude behavior by any person does nothing to further reasoned discussion of the fundamental right at issue," the statement said.

Meanwhile, the district filed a motion on Jan. 31 to dismiss the lawsuit. The district said in the motion that there's no factual evidence to back Williams' claim that his constitutional rights were violated. The motion also countered Williams' argument that he and his lesson plans were singled out for review by Principal Patricia Vidmar because of his religion. The motion stated that parental complaints prompted th actions.


5 posted on 02/06/2005 1:23:08 PM PST by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Cupertino Mom; MeekOneGOP

Eeeenteresting.....


6 posted on 02/06/2005 1:23:14 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Cupertino Mom
Not only are your posts confusing, they are full of conflicitng information. You also have left out a great deal of information in your three posts here.

Give me names of those in the media whom you accuse of lying- and what has happened to cause this uproar over the Declaration of Independence.

Are you calling Sean Hannity and the teacher liars then?

And give me details of how your "little Christan" community and school district has been hurt by the publicity of this.

Why was the teacher being disciplined and lastly do you want us to feel sorry for you?

NO WAY- you are in the wrong place for that.

7 posted on 02/06/2005 1:24:17 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Just say no to the ACLU!)
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To: Cupertino Mom

California again.


8 posted on 02/06/2005 1:25:24 PM PST by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

And .. they appear to be electing a DNC chair who has openly stated, "I HATE REPUBLICANS AND EVERYTHING THEY STAND FOR" (Dean).

Now there's a great way to promote bi-partisanship!


9 posted on 02/06/2005 1:26:08 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: Cupertino Mom
"We want to make the point that they lied," Ferro added. "Any one of those 3,000 people [who sent messages to the school] could have come in with an AK-47.

This is what you think of those on the right? That they're violent school shooters?

10 posted on 02/06/2005 1:27:03 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Cupertino Mom

Cupertino Mom: Member since 2005-01-24


11 posted on 02/06/2005 1:27:17 PM PST by Nephi (Joe McCarthy was right.)
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To: Cupertino Mom

CM? Hellooooo......

You still there??


12 posted on 02/06/2005 1:28:06 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Nephi

She's not a memeber, she's a post n' run troll.

She doesn't get that Free Republic ain't a news service for her press releases.


13 posted on 02/06/2005 1:29:24 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Texas_Jarhead
liberals love nothing more than hating Christians

Sad but true.

14 posted on 02/06/2005 1:31:40 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: stands2reason
"We want to make the point that they lied," Ferro added. "Any one of those 3,000 people [who sent messages to the school] could have come in with an AK-47."

Oh My.. What a drama queen..... That is too much. One of these days these whiny,lying liberals is going to get what they deserve. That would be to run into a true blue American who is really as mean as they fantasize about.

I guess they aren't much unless they are victims.

15 posted on 02/06/2005 1:32:24 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Just say no to the ACLU!)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Were you ever employed at Parris Island, South Carolina?


16 posted on 02/06/2005 1:36:31 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: stands2reason

looks like a drive by troll


17 posted on 02/06/2005 1:41:42 PM PST by markman46
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To: Mr. Lucky

no,sorry.


18 posted on 02/06/2005 1:46:07 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Just say no to the ACLU!)
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To: Cupertino Mom
The parents of Stevens Creek School have united to couner the lies in the media about our school. The Declaration was never banned. While our evangelical teacher may be intitled to his day in court, the Alliance Defense Fund is not entitled to mislead the public for their own publicity. We will continue to work for a complete retration and an apology from the ADF.

This is from your homepage and would seem to indicate that you are a product of the public schools. In intelligent discourse "couner" is spelled "counter", "intitled" is spelled "entitled", and "retration" is spelled "retraction."

You and your parents group are simpletons.

19 posted on 02/06/2005 1:47:29 PM PST by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: Cupertino Mom
"Any one of those 3,000 people [who sent messages to the school] could have come in with an AK-47. We wanted to place the responsibility of those 3,000 threats on their shoulders."

:rolleyes:

20 posted on 02/06/2005 1:53:34 PM PST by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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