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Why I Am Now Behind Arnold
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Posted on 08/12/2003 9:52:14 AM PDT by DrMartinVonNostrand
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To: EternalVigilance
Ah excuse me, but Grey Davis has had no effect on me or most Georgians. he has been governor for over four years.
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posted on
08/12/2003 9:38:41 PM PDT
by
nyconse
To: nyconse
Actually in California, Pubbies are split down the middle on abortion. I suspect there is a majority among Pubbies for a moderate policy restricting some abortions in California, but will that would be thin beer for some around here.
462
posted on
08/12/2003 9:38:52 PM PDT
by
Torie
To: nyconse
No, I am not kidding.
463
posted on
08/12/2003 9:39:07 PM PDT
by
Torie
To: Torie
I never knew that. Boy you learn something new every day on this forum. Can you explain how and why Reagan did this. I thought Reagan was pro-life all the way.
464
posted on
08/12/2003 9:40:40 PM PDT
by
nyconse
To: nyconse
Constitutional law, science and medicine have dramatically changed since
Ronald Reagan was Governor of California. But a major law involving fundamental reproductive rights remains frozen in time. Californias Therapeutic Abortion Act appears in our statute books exactly as
Governor Reagan signed it in 1967. A progressive measure 35 years ago, the Therapeutic Abortion Act now is archaic, confusing, and unconstitutional. A lawyer researching the Health and Safety Code today would read that abortion is legal only if a hospital committee determines that the pregnancy will gravely impair a womans physical or mental health or a District Attorney concludes that the pregnancy probably resulted from rape or incest. Health and Safety Code Sections 123405, 123407.
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posted on
08/12/2003 9:41:00 PM PDT
by
Hillary's Lovely Legs
(a 'true conservative' would rather keep Davis than elect Arnold just so they can say 'I told you so')
To: Torie
I think parental notification is really important. I recall that Arnold was for this (not sure).
466
posted on
08/12/2003 9:41:48 PM PDT
by
nyconse
To: nyconse
Ah excuse me, but Grey Davis has had no effect on me or most Georgians. he has been governor for over four years. There is an old adage that says, 'as goes California, so goes the nation'. There is more than a little truth in that.
To: nyconse
Reagan "changed" his mind later, as the issue became more partisan, and he had national ambitions. Bush pere "changed" his mind too. Gephardt "changed" his mind. Politics is sort of like watching sausage being made.
468
posted on
08/12/2003 9:42:33 PM PDT
by
Torie
To: Torie
I would give you odds that Schwarzenegger, given the political pressures of actually being in the arena, will 'change' as well.
How much is an open question.
To: nyconse
I suspect the current SCOTUS would strike down parental notification. Some state supreme courts use their own constitutions to strike it down.
470
posted on
08/12/2003 9:44:27 PM PDT
by
Torie
To: nyconse
471
posted on
08/12/2003 9:44:36 PM PDT
by
Hillary's Lovely Legs
(a 'true conservative' would rather keep Davis than elect Arnold just so they can say 'I told you so')
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Ok, I can see why he did this. Reagan was very compassionate. He wanted to help victims of rape and incest. Of course if I know doctors, they immediately used this law to perform abortion using the "mental" paragraph: a woman who couldn't get an abortion would be destroyed emotionally. Sad-abortion caused anguish-at least for the people I know that have had one.
472
posted on
08/12/2003 9:45:01 PM PDT
by
nyconse
To: 2rightsleftcoast
If everyone who was for McClintock actually voted for the man he would win! This "I like him but he can't win" is completely self defeating. He can win if people vote for the best candidate for the job.
473
posted on
08/12/2003 9:45:08 PM PDT
by
Canticle_of_Deborah
(The 12th Republican Commandment: "Thou shalt not alienate thy base")
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Love it; I agree-The important thing is to get rid of Davis and install a Republican in the Governor's mansion-yeah!
474
posted on
08/12/2003 9:46:30 PM PDT
by
nyconse
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Nice.
475
posted on
08/12/2003 9:46:31 PM PDT
by
EternalVigilance
(A 'true conservative' will never vote for anti-life, anti-freedom candidates ever...)
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
There were a huge number of abortions performed in California under the Act signed by Reagan pre Roe v Wade. That data combined with NY, and two other states, was used by some academics (one from Stanford) to write a paper arguing that abortion reduces crime rates. I posted that article a couple of years ago on this very site.
476
posted on
08/12/2003 9:47:27 PM PDT
by
Torie
To: RS
NO conservative can or will get elected....the Dems will eat them alive.....but they won't butt heads too hard with Arnold.
To: Canticle_of_Deborah
It seems as if most people who support McClintock do not live in California and thus can not vote.
478
posted on
08/12/2003 9:47:32 PM PDT
by
nyconse
To: Kevin Curry; nyconse
Kevin, I see you didn't even bother to read my links...and you statement has no documentation...
America has had legal abortion on request since 1973. Before legalization, abortion complications accounted for 23% of all pregnancy-related admissions to municipal hospitals in New York City. After legalization, that number fell by 75% almost immediately, and continued to fall through the 70's and 80's. Today, the complication rate for early abortion in the United States is less than 1%, and the maternal mortality rate is .6 per 100,000 abortions.
See also below link, yes abortions were legal in California and New York before Roe v Wade and are likely IMO to be so if Roe changes, much ado about nothing.....
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/library/ABORTION/HealthBenef.html
To: nyconse
I support McClintock and live in California. Confusing isn't it?
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posted on
08/12/2003 9:48:47 PM PDT
by
Torie
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