Why I Am Now Behind Arnold

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[nyconse]

Ah excuse me, but Grey Davis has had no effect on me or most Georgians. he has been governor for over four years.

[Torie]

Actually in California, Pubbies are split down the middle on abortion. I suspect there is a majority among Pubbies for a moderate policy restricting some abortions in California, but will that would be thin beer for some around here.

[Torie]

No, I am not kidding.

[nyconse]

I never knew that. Boy you learn something new every day on this forum. Can you explain how and why Reagan did this. I thought Reagan was pro-life all the way.

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

Constitutional law, science and medicine have dramatically changed since Ronald Reagan was Governor of California. But a major law involving fundamental reproductive rights remains frozen in time. California’s Therapeutic Abortion Act appears in our statute books exactly as Governor Reagan signed it in 1967.

A progressive measure 35 years ago, the Therapeutic Abortion Act now is archaic, confusing, and unconstitutional. A lawyer researching the Health and Safety Code today would read that abortion is legal only if a hospital committee determines that the pregnancy will gravely impair a woman’s physical or mental health or a District Attorney concludes that the pregnancy probably resulted from rape or incest. Health and Safety Code Sections 123405, 123407.

[nyconse]

I think parental notification is really important. I recall that Arnold was for this (not sure).

[EternalVigilance]

Ah excuse me, but Grey Davis has had no effect on me or most Georgians. he has been governor for over four years.

There is an old adage that says, 'as goes California, so goes the nation'. There is more than a little truth in that.

[Torie]

Reagan "changed" his mind later, as the issue became more partisan, and he had national ambitions. Bush pere "changed" his mind too. Gephardt "changed" his mind. Politics is sort of like watching sausage being made.

[EternalVigilance]

I would give you odds that Schwarzenegger, given the political pressures of actually being in the arena, will 'change' as well.

How much is an open question.

[Torie]

I suspect the current SCOTUS would strike down parental notification. Some state supreme courts use their own constitutions to strike it down.

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

[nyconse]

Ok, I can see why he did this. Reagan was very compassionate. He wanted to help victims of rape and incest. Of course if I know doctors, they immediately used this law to perform abortion using the "mental" paragraph: a woman who couldn't get an abortion would be destroyed emotionally. Sad-abortion caused anguish-at least for the people I know that have had one.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

If everyone who was for McClintock actually voted for the man he would win! This "I like him but he can't win" is completely self defeating. He can win if people vote for the best candidate for the job.

[nyconse]

Love it; I agree-The important thing is to get rid of Davis and install a Republican in the Governor's mansion-yeah!

[EternalVigilance]

Nice.

[Torie]

There were a huge number of abortions performed in California under the Act signed by Reagan pre Roe v Wade. That data combined with NY, and two other states, was used by some academics (one from Stanford) to write a paper arguing that abortion reduces crime rates. I posted that article a couple of years ago on this very site.

[Ann Archy]

NO conservative can or will get elected....the Dems will eat them alive.....but they won't butt heads too hard with Arnold.

[nyconse]

It seems as if most people who support McClintock do not live in California and thus can not vote.

[rolling_stone]

Kevin, I see you didn't even bother to read my links...and you statement has no documentation...

America has had legal abortion on request since 1973. Before legalization, abortion complications accounted for 23% of all pregnancy-related admissions to municipal hospitals in New York City. After legalization, that number fell by 75% almost immediately, and continued to fall through the 70's and 80's. Today, the complication rate for early abortion in the United States is less than 1%, and the maternal mortality rate is .6 per 100,000 abortions.

See also below link, yes abortions were legal in California and New York before Roe v Wade and are likely IMO to be so if Roe changes, much ado about nothing.....

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/library/ABORTION/HealthBenef.html

[Torie]

I support McClintock and live in California. Confusing isn't it?