Posted on 06/10/2002 4:35:38 AM PDT by Pern
Whoa there, galt-jw. I do believe in God, and I do believe that God wants us to live in a certain way. I wouldn't say that God constitutes a 'state.' And yes, I do think I know what is best, just as you do (no God, no 'state', I would guess?). But I don't impose anything on anyone. I do try to convince, when I believe others are hurting themselves. That's hardly fiat. AS I said previously, people are free to engage in any kind of sexual practices they want. I certainly have no power to stop them. Lastly, my religion requires me to focus on self every second of every day, and to try and bring that tempted and corrupted self as close to God and goodness as I can possibly get it.
Having lived what Yendu explains, I can tell you that it is freedom he teaches. Sin is the bondage you throughly describe.
Ok, I am curious, how does one go about getting to be "legally" an adult at such age. Was there lawyers involved? Were your parents willing participants to this act?
Do you really think these people listen to what others tell them when they have their lives so figured out?
Lowelljr is right. Those things that are considered sinful by Christianty (and most of the world's major religions) are things that we are tempted to, but which in the end are quite likely to subtract from the overall happiness we might otherwise experience in life. It is hard to see that - especially with regard to things like sex, where (particularly for men) the temptation can be extraordinarily strong. And it is much harder for the young to see that, because they haven't experienced the downsides that usually come, sooner or later, from sinful behavior. That is why, when one is fortunate enough to have loving parents, it is especially prudent to listen to them and to consider that the sometimes difficult messages are given in love. The same for the messages that come from relgious people. Most such people aren't out to impose anything on anyone. They're out to try to help people lead happier and more fulfilling lives.
And then it's time for a good and honorable fight.
Do the same rules apply to men? Is a man who's had 2 sexual partners a 'bargain basement' groom?
Now, I'm trying to " talk dirty to a minor ? She brought it up, she has engaged in this debate, she has already supplied personal, anecdotal examples, as well as silly hypotheitical ones. If she can't cope with this, then she shouldn't be here. If you can't, then neither should you. Being her protector, just gives you the opening, that you so crave, to beat up on those whith whom you disagree. Yet more juvenile and illogical stabs at refutation from you.
Dear, you are supposed to be the self-proclaimed adult. Stop blaming the "child" for your trying to drag her sexual life out into the public. You were demanding it. Yet you claim to know better. Really, I am surprised you'd do that. What were you thinking?
Hey, we're part of a tag team. I pinged her to one of those Christian holier than thou homobashing threads.
Except that she has the skill of debating without being a buffoon.
If that is intended as a compliment to JediGirl, what more chivalrous thing can I do but agree. :-)
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