Posted on 05/10/2010 3:17:06 PM PDT by Davy Buck
"If Lee was a traitor (and I don't believe he was), he would be the only traitor for which a ship in the United States Navy was ever named. He would be the only traitor in Statuary Hall at the U.S. Capitol. He would be the only traitor whose image was used in a positive way to recruit military personnel to fight and win WWII. Quite an accomplishment for a "traitor", wouldn't you say. . ."
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You'd have to establish that by trial under Article III, by bringing forward witnesses in compliance with the article. Good luck.
e especially doesn’t like it when his pro-abortion stance is mentioned.
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He won’t deny it either. He knows people have his posts and will post them. Have you seen his posts detailing how great Muslims are and their wonderful contributions to the world? Maybe time to post that again.
BINGO!
In your opinion then, traitors or no?
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Truth be told, if you were to argue that yes, the South was a sovereign nation, but in the long run we(USA) are better off as an empire, I would at least listen to your position. You would be starting from a position of honesty, but again I don't expect that. Continue with your lies and BS...
Deny you’re pro-choice. Do it!
You are referring inappropriately to the "Cornerstone Speech", which represented a political statement produced by Alexander Stephens for the cause he had so recently embraced.
The "Cornerstone" needs to be contextualized properly by posting it in full, side-by-side with the full text of Stephens's remarks to the Georgia secession convention only days earlier, in which he spoke candidly about his opinion that it would be better for Georgia (and by extension the South) to remain in the Union.
Your "all about slavery" bender is actually contemporary Northern liberal and Democratic Party propaganda and not a genuinely historical perspective.
An idiotic statement if ever there was one.
Double-dog-dare me first.
You have stated that you go to work 4 PM to 12 AM CST. Now either you are lying, you post on FR while you are getting paid to work, OR others use your account and post on the same threads you do and in the same posting manner. Which is it?
I don’t work for anyone else. People work for me. I can post whenever I have nothing else to do.
Concurring bump. Good post.
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Let's say this current thug 'n chief signs a treaty effectively disarming (subverting the Constitution,) Americans as a whole. My State and Montana would say " F that " and Secede.
Several months pass. Several promises are made.
Thug 'n chief gives some stupid speech (like Lincoln,) claiming we The people of these two States are property of the General Government.
There is a base that we've offered to pay for which sits at the entrance that we consider our livelihood. The main entrance for imports and exports. Reinforcements arrive despite previous promises. Do we consider this an act of war? Knowing what he said in his speech. Keep in mind we've never really seen 'eye to eye'. You damned right we would - FIRE!
If that isn't good enough. Remove all that and place a few Soviet Subs outside of California. Then let a Battleship appear. Would we fire first? Reagan would. Obama would direct their fire towards conservative American. Most likely Northern Alabama.
He was vice-president of the confederate states. If he didn't know why they rebelled then who did?
The "Cornerstone" needs to be contextualized properly by posting it in full, side-by-side with the full text of Stephens's remarks to the Georgia secession convention only days earlier, in which he spoke candidly about his opinion that it would be better for Georgia (and by extension the South) to remain in the Union.
Stephens made those remarks to the Georgia secession convention in mid-January 1861. The Cornerstone speech was two months later, not a few days. In the interim Stephens had been a leader at the Montgomery convention, helped shape the rebel constitution, and accepted the post of vice president. Your suggestion that his loyalty is suspect is somewhat ridiculous.
Feel free to check me on the dates. For all you know I'm fibbing my ass off again.
Your "all about slavery" bender is actually contemporary Northern liberal and Democratic Party propaganda and not a genuinely historical perspective.
You mean it doesn't meet current Lost Cause revisionist standards.
For the timezone challenged among you it's currently 1:38 PM in KC. I'm not at work.
Quite true. Grant and the Union soldiers respected their foes and were surprised at Appomattox at how starved and bedraggled they were.
Apparently, many of the secessionists had an inadequate appreciation of the power of numbers and superior strength.
Sorry NS, but I had to correct that for you. The Lost Causers have no standards, just myths.
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