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Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion
I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".
The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:
In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.
MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).
There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).
There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.
I also had a relative that worked in the county title/treasurers office her entire life until retiring just a few years ago and guess what she did.
When plates came out, she went through the stacks and set aside plates the had personal meaning to us, same when it came to filing for new titles w/ corresponding plates. When our renewals came, all we had to do was give her our cards & payment, she took them to work, processed them & we had handy dandy personal plates for our vehicles for years.
Obama’s birth was filed on the 8th & given a number on the 8th, the Nordyke twins births were not filed until the 11th, but were given numbers prior to that of a cert filed and recorded 3 days earlier?
I suppose the Nordyke twins parents had an inside track in a public office as we did for so many years. YEP, that must be it.
The should check under Barry Soetoro too.
Nobody has to see the doctor sign the certificate. It has a self-subscribing oath. There is no notary seal on birth certificates, no notary stamp, nothing.
I’m not saying every nurse would be an authorized registrar. It’s like that one nurse, the head nurse, or at most two head nurses for different shifts. Certainly the head nurse would deal with parents signatures. It is more than likely, in fact, highly likely, though that a head nurse/registrar must be available to witness a doctor’s signature. Otherwise, her signature is meaningless because she attest to the information she’s supposed to.
Yes, I’m certain the certificate number was assigned and stamped by the state’s office. My contention is that it’s possible the file/accepted by date was stamped by the local registrar/nurse.
Do you know it’s that way for a fact in Hawaii. It doesn’t work that way in Texas. Our BC’s arent’ notarized either. I wasn’t implying that.
You did say this:
From post 96. l. She likely would have been a head nurse or someone like that. It’s likely that she would have been the one to stamp the date filed because it seems to coinside with the date the doctor signed the certificate.
That doesn't make sense. A nurse is NOT going to stamp the the "Date Filed by the Registrar" OR the "Date Accepted by the Registrar," which is OBVIOUSLY the date when the birth certificate goes into the state vital records as shown to you above and when it gets the control number. Now, why would a nurse accept or file the birth certificate for the state? Answer: the nurse would not.
I wouldn’t put a whole lot of value on the BC numbers.
My brother and I happen to be the first-born babies in another state, county, city at an earlier time in history. I was the first New Year’s baby and my brother was second in that particular year. My BC number issued by the county health dept is #8 and brother’s is #9.
This seems to suggest to me that the registrar assigned numbers as they came off a pile in her in-box.
That being stated, I’m all in favor off throwing out the Usurper-In-Chief because he is not a Natural Born Citizen.
That means that:
1) he used a foreign passport to party in Pakistan which means he knows (aside from Senate Resolution 511 and the "two parents") he isn't a NBC.
2) the dudes who broke into the passport office were either there out of curiosity or were ordered by the puppet masters to do the deed. That event can give him the out he needs in that his application and whatever else was destroyed by the guys. And, ya know, we shouldn't jump to conclusions as to why the msm and police apparently have ignored any investigation on the one who was murdered.
It appears that cleaning the history books of Obamas lies should create jobs for thousands in the future.
It should really get interesting when the trolls quit due to lack of pay and discussion forums load up with millions of requests asking for the truth, also asking why so many were silent and again asking for justice.
I swear there is going to be a lot of plane tickets being bought for destinations going to South America soon.
If there is one thing most people absolutely hate is being laughed at, being ridiculed that they supported, voted, stood up for and camped out for a fake, a phony, a manufactured person, a synthetic President. They will demand justice, they will keep asking why nobody dared to expose him, why didn’t anyone challenge Obama in court.
We know there are some people still struggling to pursue this in the constrained legal circles. It will be no surprise that America will also lose faith in the justice system for its run around to those trying to put Obama in the courtroom.
There is no global Men in Black neuralyzer available to the Obama machine to make the world forget about where he came from, they will try to re-write the history books in schools and colleges to give Obama the positive spin, it will be a Truth War in regards to keep the lies from becoming a false history.
The diversionary lecturers or after-birthers are sweating up a storm....they cannot maintain any logical format, they can only retreat into a false fantasy world.
It would be an interesting proposition to consider a public forum much like the Tea Party but aimed at public lectures, slide show facts and speeches dedicated solely towards Obamas eligibility...and the future questions of preventing it from happening again.
Nurses are not state local registrars for vital statistics.
The only way to prove your theory is for the original to be released to confirm that the signature of the local registrar matches that of local registrar who signed the Nordyke twins certs and that the date filed & the date accepted are indeed different dates on '0's cert. This is the only way that your theory of stacked up and out of order paperwork could be plausible.
Okubo’s response was actually in regards to what “Date filed by registrar” means. She said it means the day when the state registrar gave the certificate a certificate number.
That’s why the “date filed” and certificate number are bound to each other. Okubo confirmed that the 2 happen at the same time.
Okubo says that up until more recently there was also an item, “Date ACCEPTED by registrar”, which was the day that the local registrar received the BC. She was being asked about the difference between all these terms and said they don’t use “Date ACCEPTED” any more because it doesn’t matter when the local registrar gets the BC now that they do things electronically. And the day that a local registrar received a BC on Oahu was always the same day as they got the BC to the state registrar’s office and the number was given. That wasn’t true for other areas in Hawaii, where it took longer to get the BC’s to the state registrar.
Something else - how has he traveled out of the country since his college days? He’s admitted to going to Kenya and to visit his mother in Indonesia. She was also in Pakistan or at least worked out of there at times during the ‘80s. Fine, as Pres_ent the passport is probably not needed but there were his trips as Senator. I doubt Russia would let him within a hundred miles of Red Square without a valid US passport. Maybe that’s why they’ve snubbed him so soundly.
If BO walked up to you and said my father was Frank Marshall Davis and my Mom went to Canada and gave birth, you would say....”SHHHHHHHH, don’t tell anyone and you secret be safe with me bro.”
Buckeye, you gotta be kidding:
“suppose; likely; someone like that; seems; let’s suppose”
LOL!
Driving a truck?
lol. I could actually tell you more about Hawaii’s idea of what constitutes an oath than you really want to hear. lol.
But a self-subscribing oath doesn’t have to be notarized. And why would there be a requirement for the signature to be witnessed if there’s never any notarization of the signature? All the registrar is signing to is the fact that they received the BC. The doctor and the witness have self-subscribing oaths attached to their signature line. The local registrar has no oath.
parsnip... LOL LOL!
Okay, so logically explain how a form received on August 8th and filed - case closed - got a number higher than forms that came in three days AFTER Obama’s form got filed?
Aug 8 =/= Aug 11
Seriously, once the thing got filed they would have stuck it in a folder and that was it. The numbers preceding Barry’s would have been used already by the time the Nordyke’s rolled in three days later. So how could this be. Well either the Nordyke’s are false or the picture posted on the internet supposedly of Barry’s is a forgery.
This is NOT saying that Barry wasn’t born in Hawaii. It is simply saying that what has been posted on the internet is NOT Barry’s real COLB.
Ok so if that isn’t Obama’s REAL COLB.... then OBAMA HAS NOT PROVEN A SINGLE THING ABOUT HIMSELF AT ALL! He has NOT shown a picture of his real COLB. It’s on his campaign website, HIS fightthesmears http://www.fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate site, which is PASSING IT OFF AS HIS.
Let me put it another way.
I am not saying he wasn’t born in Hawaii. I am saying that he has NOT shown his REAL Certificate of Live Birth. He is allowing a forgery to stand, and knows it is a forgery.
What is on the REAL COLB?
Literally, the ONLY thing he gave us regarding who he is, is the COLB on FightTheSmears set up by FactCheck.
Has ANYONE at the DOH ever certified that what is at that site is REALLY Barry’s COLB? That the NUMBERS match?? 151 1969 010641 is Barry’s Birth Certificate number??
I don’t recall anyone ever stating they had confirmation of that fact from the DOH. Is there any?
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