Splifford the bat says: Always remember:
A mind is a terrible thing to waste; especially on an evolutionist.
Just say no to narcotic drugs, alcohol abuse, and corrupt ideological doctrines.
Posted on 09/22/2006 2:09:33 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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No, not really. Sensible people with a good handle on the scientific evidence realize that the evidence is clear that the evolution of life on earth occurred over the last 3+ billion years. We don't have a clear understanding of how it all happened, but looking at the evidence, there is no other conclusion a sensible person can come to than that the earth is much older than a literal reading of the Bible allows for and that life has evolved and developed dramatically since it first appeared on earth billions of years ago.
Sensible people do not ignore all the evidence gathered since 1350 or try to filter it through a medieval mindset to reach the conclusion they desire; they see it for what it is and then learn to deal with it. The science is quite simply not on the side of a literal Biblical interpretation, and has not been for several hundred years. If people can't deal with that, it's not a problem with the science, it's their own personal problem.
So you believe that God lays traps to catch and destroy the little critters that He created?
I shouldn't be surprised, I suppose. The concept of God as an exceedingly bored sadist engaged in a circular game of "create the little critter, trick the little critter, and destroy the little critter" seems to be fairly commonplace amongst creationists.
However, I can understand how Moral Relativists like yourself can rationalize slaughter.
Hope this helps.
You're confusing me with somebody else, I haven't gotten into the evolution/ethics thing on this thread so far.
Splifford the bat says: Always remember:
A mind is a terrible thing to waste; especially on an evolutionist.
Just say no to narcotic drugs, alcohol abuse, and corrupt ideological doctrines.
You're wasting your time. These self proclaimed mental giants look down their noses at us peasants who don't agree with evolution.
I remember you posting in talk.origins over ten years ago. Back then, I spent more time in talk.politics.guns reading Pim van Meurs gun-banning crap.
If you're back, why don't you just ask the mods to turn your medved account back on?
Hi jerri.
Do you agree with medved/tomzz/Ted Holden that a supernova within our solar system caused Noah's flood? Do you agree that Nasa is engaged in a conspiracy to hide the truth about a martian city and the Face on Mars?
This isn't about evolution anymore. It's about lunacy.
In case you missed it. Trap is a metaphor for an intellectual problem to which the evolutionist has no answer, unless it is the one the evolutionist does not want to accept.
Perhaps metaphors are evil and we should not allow people the intellectual feedom to use metaphors in school either.
Right. A metaphor.
So what we have is an "intellectual problem" (or metaphoric "trap") for which God metes out a punishment of eternal pain and suffering for "getting the wrong answer" (or for metaphorically "falling into").
And you are right back to -- "God the bored" (1) creates the critter, (2) creates the "intellectual problem" (or metaphoric "trap"), and (3) punishes the critter for not getting the right answer to the "problem" (or for falling into the metaphoric "trap").
God as a galactic brat.
"which God metes out a punishment of eternal pain and suffering"
You bring up a good point, although a bit unrelated to the topic discussed, a good point nevertheless....
Perhaps if the "problem of evil" or the "problem of suffering" is preventing your mind and heart from turning to God, you should consider reading: C.S. Lewis: The Problem of Pain.
http://www.amazon.com/Problem-Pain-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060652969/sr=8-1/qid=1159465871/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8612528-6088129?ie=UTF8&s=books
Ahh, yes. The presumption that I am not a Christian because I do not agree with your particular brand of theological myopia. As always.
One does not have to believe that God's creation is a trap or a trick to be a "true" Christian.
The thing I was referring to early was not turtle ships or ships at all for that matter, but floating forts which were used in an earlier war, in the first millenium AD. Those were much larger than any known wooden ship with the possible exception of Zheng He's largest ships.
In many ways, Ted Holden is a net legend. Are you really him?
A super nova anywhere remotely close to our system would burn our system to cinders. The term I've used is "nova-like condition/stellar blowout", most likely involving a small brown-dwarf type star.
Your source is wrong about one thing, basically, the decades-long fruit fly tests they ran in the first half of the 1900s actually was a test of the theory of evolution and the entire idea of macroevolution, and evolution clearly failed the test.
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