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To: FreedomProtector
Maybe this is what actually makes perfect sense and will enable 'sensible people' with hard hearts to turn to God:

No, not really. Sensible people with a good handle on the scientific evidence realize that the evidence is clear that the evolution of life on earth occurred over the last 3+ billion years. We don't have a clear understanding of how it all happened, but looking at the evidence, there is no other conclusion a sensible person can come to than that the earth is much older than a literal reading of the Bible allows for and that life has evolved and developed dramatically since it first appeared on earth billions of years ago.

Sensible people do not ignore all the evidence gathered since 1350 or try to filter it through a medieval mindset to reach the conclusion they desire; they see it for what it is and then learn to deal with it. The science is quite simply not on the side of a literal Biblical interpretation, and has not been for several hundred years. If people can't deal with that, it's not a problem with the science, it's their own personal problem.

1,361 posted on 09/28/2006 8:30:00 AM PDT by Quark2005 ("Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs." -Matthew 7:6)
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To: Quark2005

"Sensible people do not ignore all the evidence gathered since 1350 or try to filter it through a medieval mindset to reach the conclusion they desire"

"If people can't deal with that, it's not a problem with the science, it's their own personal problem."


What year was the printing press with movable type invented in?

What was the first book printed with that printing press?

What year did the scientific revolution start (Kepler, Francis Bacon etc.)?

Who was Einstein referring to when he remarked 'had made the greatest change in our conception of reality'
http://www.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk/faraday/Faraday.php

Perhaps there is a connection....[ Many historians (for ex. Francis Schaeffer) have explored the topic in detail.]

Perhaps Michael Faraday, one of the greatest physicists of and one of the finest experimenters of all time (according to Einstein), was not a 'sensible' person because he like Bacon was convinced that the book of God's world and the book of God's word had the same author.

Perhaps we would still be living without electricity if Faraday didn't explore the book of God's world.

Perhaps Fadaday didn't have a "personal problem."
Perhaps Darwin and subsequent followers had/have a their "own personal problem" with God.


1,488 posted on 09/29/2006 6:35:03 PM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: Quark2005
The science is quite simply not on the side of a literal Biblical interpretation, and has not been for several hundred years. If people can't deal with that, it's not a problem with the science, it's their own personal problem.

Not necessarily.

You forgot that there are certain metaphysical underpinnings to the science, namely that there is now, and never has been, any interference or misunderstanding of the physical data; and that the laws of nature as currently observed, and extrapolated, have always held true -- at least to great enough of an extent that the findings remained consistent.

Those are metaphysical and / or theological considerations, however.

Cheers!

1,519 posted on 09/30/2006 10:32:44 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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