I think he should be exiled, maybe to St. Helena where they put Napoleon once upon a time. Greer has a Napoleon complex, so it would be a good place for him.
Napoleon in guarded exile on St. Helena
Posted on 05/30/2006 11:14:37 AM PDT by KevinNuPac
Terri's Day and nation's independence protects life culture
Kevin Fobbs May 29, 2006
America's Culture of Life is truly the legacy of one woman whose death forever changed our nation because of actions that were not in her hands but in those of her husband and his lawyers. Yet for millions of Americans we will forever link our own celebration of our nation's independence to the courage of the Schindler family to go forward past the tragedy, past the personal sorrow, past the searing anguish to help America draw a distinct line in the sand, to issue a clarion call to America.
Our 4th of July is coming... Our Culture of Life Independence Day is on its way. Our month of Independence is a message that March 31st (Terri's Day) will signal, that July 4th will signal... and that the month of July will signal to defend the Culture of Life before we lose it forever.
When we talked with our family members or even our neighbors or our friends we may have spent but a moment reflecting upon why we are even gathered on a Memorial Day afternoon. Do we think about the sacrifice of our soldiers and of their families? Do we think about the long goodbyes which are never long enough... as the military families send their loved ones to war, to battle, to stand firm for our freedoms... for our life... for our nation and its values of faith?
How does Terri Schiavo and her legacy tie into this? Terri's legacy and Terri's Day is a representation of a right to live, and freedom to have the liberty to not have it compromised away, devalued by inconvenience, or litigated away by judges who celebrate a culture of death that would rob life from the womb, steal life from a hospital or hospice bed, and destroy and shatter a family's love for a daughter, a sister and aunt who was given a gift from God, but had it separated from her as easily as an ant would have its life take by an uncaring shoe... extinguished forever.
The families who send their loved ones off to war have to wonder as well, does America value their sacrifice? The families of the military have to wonder just where does its society draw the line on its values? A soldier who is in battle in Iraq or Afghanistan has to wonder if a Florida judge can take away the life of an innocent, what is the measure of his life? Would a judge in America suddenly decide that if he were injured, if he had to sacrifice a limb that the protesters outside his hospital bed would have more rights than he would or his family? Would this soldier have to wonder that if he or his fellow soldier were killed in battle, that upon their return that the protesters who would stand outside of his funeral... have more rights to be protected than the rights his family would have to a military burial with honor?
You see, the Culture of Life is about Terri Schiavo, because Americans now have to examine the life of our culture itself. We have to wonder if we as a nation of Christians and of a nation of faith and of a nation of compassion would allow for a state to murder an innocent woman and strip her family of their loved one then as a nation would we allow America to have other symbols of life, of our nation to be peeled away as well, all in open sight and in plain view of a dispassionate nation?
What does our American Culture mean if we allow millions of illegal aliens to literally browbeat us into submission by demanding that because they have stolen across our borders, demanded and received protection from local law enforcement in numerous cities throughout the U. S., obtained free or reduced educational opportunities by state public colleges that our own children could not qualify to receive the same financial aid assistance for. Are we that defenseless to let illegals strip our state coffers of housing assistance for loans and mortgages when tens of thousands in almost every state in America have legal citizens who are homeless, impoverished, or working poor or middle class Americans who need similar assistance but cannot receive it. And they are legal! They are citizens! They are Americans.
What is so wrong about our nation when we are so ready to compromise our freedoms, our culture's life, the life of an innocent and the taking of any life is the taking of our own children's life and their child's. And with each successive generation the nation and its life, its values, its traditions, and its language will disappear because we as Americans were too preoccupied — too narrow — to see that an illegal alien was taking your child's education, that a crusading death culture judge was preparing a bed, a room, a legal precedent to take your child, grandchild or sister or parent.
That is why I have stayed my course to defend the Culture of Life and to ask my fellow Americans to begin to understand that as Terri Schiavo's life was slowly ebbing from her body and as her mother Mary, father Bob, sister Suzanne, and brother Bobby waited in the Florida early morning air on March 31st, 2005, America was having part of its soul ebb away as well.
What will it take to spark an interest, a concern, and a passion for protecting one's own life? Some may say that it would take a clear and present danger — like tanks rolling down your neighborhood street or another 9/11 that strikes at the heart of America. Do we have the convenience to wait? Do we wait until a state legislature in Maine or California or Delaware or Ohio or Illinois decides that your mother's decision to live is determined by a hospital "bean counter" who decides that your mother's life is not based upon a "Will To Live" but an ability to pay her bill? What about a baby, not born, but already set for murder in the womb — not because the mother is pro-life or pro-death but because "the law" says the unborn baby's life is expendable because the baby's genes are determined to be part of a class or a group or a race or of an ethnicity which pre-programs the child, un-born, to death?
America is being murdered in small pieces. It is seeing its values, its life, its culture disemboweled with the finesse of a skilled surgeon. And it is America's poll takers and its legislators and its uncaring, disinterested, and uninvolved who are handling the scalpel. Take the scalpel away. Contact www.Terrisfight.org to join the Foundation's battle to educate America about the right to live. Go to Terri's Day on www.kevinfobbs.com to learn about new updates on Terri's Day and the event to celebrate the Culture of life.
So on Independence Day and Independence month of July will we have any Americans who will sign up and join the Culture of Life movement in their community? Even if it is to sign a pledge, hand out a flyer, become aware of legislators and judicial candidates who have agreed to stand firm for the Culture of Life — a crusade that is based not only upon the life of Terri Schiavo's legacy but equally crucial based also upon the legacy of the right to live, to defend our culture and the life of its values.
Terri's Day is not the end of a national movement but the beginning of a national contract with itself to stand for a future that our nation can guarantee for its children and for a culture that will insure life. The right to live will be Terri's legacy — our legacy... one nation under God. Join us in your homes, on your family picnics, out camping and celebrating July 14th and 15th ... Our American Culture of Life belongs to each and every one of us... We must protect it. Let's celebrate together.
Kevin Fobbs is President of National Urban Policy Action Council (NuPac), a non-partisan civic and citizen-action organization that focuses on taking the politics out of policy to secure urban America's future one neighborhood, one city, and one person at a time. View NuPac on the web at www.nupac.info. Kevin Fobbs is a regular contributing columnist for the Detroit News. He is also the host of The Kevin Fobbs Show: go to: ,www.kevinfobbs.com. To contact him go to: kevin@kevinfobbs.com.
© Copyright 2006 by Kevin Fobbs http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/fobbs/060529
I started to wonder when he tried to sell me boy scout cookies.
Well I'll be... And here I just thought the poor visitor just hadn't had an update in the last sixteen years. News is slow in some parts, you know.
I think he should be exiled, maybe to St. Helena where they put Napoleon once upon a time. Greer has a Napoleon complex, so it would be a good place for him.
Napoleon in guarded exile on St. Helena
As I said in my previous post, because of this thread I did become serious about finding out more about the issue. I wouldn't have spent the time looking at the court papers if I was not. Obviously, those on this thread, including you, are just going to view me as a troll. In light of the last few posts about me, it is not worth continuing this discussion. Have a nice day.
Buh bye
Somebody maybe could make a reservation for one at The Briars. But it is too touristy now. Not many islands off Florida isolated anymore either, but maybe some hammock in the Everglades...
LOL
The brutal manner she and her family were treated by her estranged husband and Judge Greer and the way she was killed is a real life horror story. When a little boy tried to bring her water because he felt sorry for her, he was actually handcuffed and taken to the police station. German, of all countries, offered to care for her for free, but Michael turned it down. It is the totality of the situation that makes statements, such as "get over it," no matter how meant, appear at best insensitive. It is not always easy to differentiate between someone who simply wants more information to someone who just wants to pick a fight. I know of good people who have received wrong information regarding Terri from the MSM.
Thanks for the note. I understand. I'm waiting for June's book.
Since you've looked over the court papers, perhaps you can say what evidence exists of Terri's desire to be fatally dehydrated?
Regardless of whether or why judges found such evidence credible, do you find it credible given the knowledge of everything that has transpired since that evidence was heard?
To conclude that Terri, without a doubt, wanted to be fatally dehydrated, one would have to either be aware of some evidence that I am not (possible--if you are aware of such, maybe you can fill me in) or else draw a number of inferences which stretch credulity to the point of ridiculousness.
I think one of the difficulties many people have with this case is that it can be hard to acknowledge the existence of great evil. Given a choice between believing that many thousands of people are lying about what went on in World War II death camps, or believing that a country could be so evil as to slaughter millions of people in such facilities, many people would rather believe the former (thus the existence of Holocaust-deniers). Likewise, people find it easier to disbelieve all the evidence showing that Michael and Felos are sadistic monsters than to believe that anyone could really be as evil as the evidence would suggest Michael and Felos to be.
I'd like to think that Michael and Felos were doing the right thing. But I cannot come up with any explanation for their behavior which is consistent with such a hypothesis. If the conditions necessary to justify their broader actions existed, many of their specific actions would have made no sense. If you can come up with a consistent overall explanation that does not involve Michael being either psychopathic or delusional, I'd like to hear it.
Cheryl warns about the emotional content of this clip, and it touches me and Floriduh voter and other freepers at the vigil pretty hard because we were right there as this event unfolded.
I have been called a liar and less printable names for repeating what we lived through that horrible time, the time they pulled the plug on poor Terri and commenced her slow and painful execution. At the short time before this interview, we had heard first hand from an excited eyewitness that unequivocally a cop heard Terri cry out her phrase and that eyewitness said the cop could not deny it. He denied anyway. You can hear for yourselves how quickly they buried the truth just moments later. Here is the clip:
That moment sears into memory and brings to mind the White Rose once again.
"We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest."
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I'm sorry to hear that you're so far away : (
How old is Grandma? I hope that somehow you can make it home to see her. (((hugs)))
Thanks 8mm. More than you know.
Whether misinterpreted or by intent, this is a Texas Death Penalty for the useless eater innocents. Perhaps with outcry it can change.
Here is what Andrea Clark's family say. It is linked to the update I posted yesterday on baby Daniel:
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On Jun 11, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Melanie Childers wrote:
Leslie,
I recently cleaned out my purse. In it, I found the
information on the lady that joined us in protesting
in front of St. Luke's Hospital in Houston, when they
were trying to kill my sister:
Sylvia Garza's sister was in the hospital (St. Luke's
Episcopal) with pneumonia for 3.5 weeks and developed
sepsis (an infection in the blood, just like Andrea)
and the doctors recommended to the family that she be
taken off of life support. Sylvia's sister, who had
never drank or smoked in her life, was 62 years old.
Her brain was functioning normally, but doctors didn't
think that she could survive the sepsis. They
"counseled" the family to take her off of the
respirator and the family reluctantly agreed.
The doctors gave her shots of morphine (which are
known to depress respiratory function) and took her
off of the respirator. Ms. Garza's sister lived,
breathing on her own, FOR EIGHTEEN HOURS. This is
with morphine pumped into her, to depress her
respiratory system and with NO VENTILATOR, to help her
to breath. When her doctor was approached by Mrs.
Garza, the patient's sister, and asked, "I thought my
sister was going to die very peacefully and quickly
once you removed the respirator?" the doctor replied
that the patient was just "very strong."
If she's so STRONG, WHY DIDN'T THEY GIVE HER A CHANCE
TO LIVE? Why pump her full of morphine and take her
off the respirator? Clearly, this patient had a
chance! Clearly, this patient could have made it!
Mrs. Garza's email is: TDWFB@aol.com Her phone
number is: 281-265-4207. She has a list of the
doctors involved in this. This is clearly murder and
since the doctors (this happened three years ago)
didn't even convene an ethics meeting, they are
legally and criminally liable. This is a woman who
was willing, after she saw the news that we were going
to protest in front of the hospital, to come out and
help us protest, because of what they had done to her
sister. This might be someone who can speak out, as
well, against what these murderers are doing.
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Terri on the road to recovery before the second stage began.
Likewise we were told Terri's feeble health and heart could barely carry on, yet she lasted an incredible thirteen days after her execution began.
This scenario must play out a whole lot, largely unreported.
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Adelaide, Australia (LifeNews.com) -- A family is embroiled in a feud over a 31 year-old man injured in an automobile accident that left him comatose. Doctors say they have no more hope for Mark Leigep's condition to improve and his mother wants a feeding tube supplying him with food and water to be removed.
But, Mark's brother Brian Leigep disagrees with the doctors and says he sees Mark's condition improving.
Leigep suffered head injuries as a result of the March 26 accident and doctors say scans show no sign of improvement. His mother, Joanne Dunn, who newspaper reports indicate did not raise him, is siding with physicians who want to remove the feeding tube.
Australia Automobile Accident Victim in Terri Schiavo-like Family Debate
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Four of the most frequent absentees in Congress are from Florida. They say they were doing work that benefits their constituents or had demands on their personal lives.
Snip...
Like Hastings, Davis pointed out that he participated in the most important debates that have come before Congress over immigration, stem-cell research and tax cuts. Davis spearheaded opposition to Republican efforts to keep a severely brain-damaged woman, Terri Schiavo, alive. The day he skipped the vote on phone-records fraud, he announced an endorsement for his gubernatorial campaign from the woman's husband, Michael Schiavo.
Four Florida Congress members on most-missed-votes list
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Satan is pleased when a victim like this poor woman is placed in such a "trying" situation. Patients like her are victims of needle-wielding terrorists. Imagine the temptation to despair when you realize that your doctors and nurses are taking steps to kill you, rather than heal you.
I'm certain that Michael Schiavo must have been aware that he was using medical employees to push Terri toward despair. Schiavo is guilty of killing Terri's body, but, even more guilty of trying to kill her soul. My-kill and other enthusiastic euthanasiacs are guilty of attempting to kill the "love of life" and human spirit of those outsiders who are aware of what is going on, too.
Lazy doctors who believe in killing their patients don't invent or discover medical advancements. They are dead-enders.
I am tempted to think that, somewhere, a Mengele-like researcher is busily collecting data on the protracted deaths of patients like these.
Serial killers keep momentos.
Baseball Caps and Tennis Shoes armed with the Truth.
Will Travel.
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