Posted on 05/09/2006 8:33:28 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
WASHINGTON -- Back in the 2004 presidential primaries, when Howard Dean, former governor of Vermont, suggested that Democrats should be competing for the votes of young men with Confederate flags on their pickups, politicians from both parties rushed to accuse him of repeating a vile Southern stereotype: the redneck with antiquated views on race. < SNIP >
''Howard Dean knows about as much about the South as a hog knows about Sunday," quipped Georgia Senator Zell Miller, the conservative Democrat who supported President Bush. ''Sure, we drive pickups, but on the back of those pickups, you see a lot of American flags. It's the most patriotic region in the country. And you see hard-working individuals that want to instill values in their children, and you see a very, very strong work ethic in the South. He doesn't understand the South." < SNIP >
Many Southerners express outrage at Northern depictions of Confederate-loving Southerners, even as they accede to the idea that the flag has a place in their regional heritage. Only those inside the Southern family circle can truly understand the region's complicated relationship with its own history.< SNIP >
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When a black is a redneck what do you call him. Maroonneck?
You must be putting words in stainlessbanner's mouth... I've never read this in any of his posts over the years. Do you claim to be a psychic or something?
I don't know, and I'm not about to ask David. He's got about two inches, twenty pounds, and twenty years of toughness on me.
The point most Neo Confederates want to ignore is that the only reason the south feared Lincoln and the republicans is that they knew that sooner or later slavery was going to be outlawed in the Whole United States, and that the only way they could stop that from happening in the south was by secession.
The reason the Emancipation Proclamation did not free one slave in the Northern slave states is that it was meant to prevent the confederacy from putting blacks on the front lines as soldiers. It was a brilliant political move that removed any possibility of the South using the promise of freedom to get slaves to fight for them.
I know it's a bitter pill to swallow, but it's true
Many European American racists were ardent supporters of the Democratic Party.
someone had to write the book. Considering most Southerners can't read or write. :o0
The same thing happened in Kentucky. Senator John Breckenridge, who'd just spent four years as Vice President and had unsuccessfully run for President, literally ran out the back door of his house as pro-Union forces broke through the front door. Fleeing to the Confederacy, Breckenridge joined the Confederate Army and served with valor at such battles as Shiloh and Chickamauga before becoming the last Confederate Secretary of War.
Am I a phychic or something?
Why yes, I am.
And I predict you will defend The Democrats if you get into a debate on the Confederate Flag with me.
Wow..never met a freeper who could recall 100% of another user's posts when said freeper was here for *years*. That must be some memory!
First off.... please don't equate party politics of the 1860's to that of today. You must think I'm an idiot if you believe that I'll buy into that Republican argument. Yoo many of the PC types here try that. Second, your point about slavery being outlawed was widely known throughout the south... regardless of whether there was a Confederacy or not. Slavery was on the way out and everyone knew it. Slaves were bought and sold under the US flag for nearly 100 years... and under the Confederate flag for just over 4 years. There were many other issues at hand, including economic issues as well as issues of power and influence. Lastly, the Emancipation Proclamation was no tendered until well after the war and was clearly designed to keep Europe out of the war.
If you have a question about my posts, ask me!
Can someone here please tell me why there are still people who think they can equate the Republican and Democratic parties of the 1860's to that of today? I cannot believe there is even ONE person here who thinks this carries ANY credibility!!! usmcobra, your PC teacher would be proud to know that you are still indoctrinated.
Before one esposes the virtues of Republican leadership in the 1860's, the blight on American history called Reconstruction must be considered! Hardly a high point in our collective past.
Less than in 2000, unfortunately.
My "PC" teacher was proud of the fact that southern Democrats dared to secede from them damned yankees, and taught me all about how the south was right in the late 60's.
Oh I was indoctrinated alright, but not how you think!
I grew up in a time when we still had colored fountains and seperate bathrooms, and George Wallace walked and stood up against integration and the federal government claiming States Rights gave him the right to deny black people the right to go to good schools and to vote.
What changed in me was I've look back on what I was taught and found that it was nothing but democrat political indoctrination of the worst sort.
One need only examine who threw a monkey wrench into reconstruction to know why it failed.
I'll give you a hint, it was a Democrat President that was almost impeached.
I see your PC history lessons have warpped your reason. The use of "neo Confederate" is a dead giveaway to it.
You know The same good old boys that during the hundred plus years after the civil war still ran around with a Minnie ball lodged in their brains.
The democrats are nothing without their tools and fools.
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