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The war between North and South
BostonGlobe ^ | May 9, 2006 | PETER S. CANELLOS

Posted on 05/09/2006 8:33:28 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

WASHINGTON -- Back in the 2004 presidential primaries, when Howard Dean, former governor of Vermont, suggested that Democrats should be competing for the votes of young men with Confederate flags on their pickups, politicians from both parties rushed to accuse him of repeating a vile Southern stereotype: the redneck with antiquated views on race. < SNIP >

''Howard Dean knows about as much about the South as a hog knows about Sunday," quipped Georgia Senator Zell Miller, the conservative Democrat who supported President Bush. ''Sure, we drive pickups, but on the back of those pickups, you see a lot of American flags. It's the most patriotic region in the country. And you see hard-working individuals that want to instill values in their children, and you see a very, very strong work ethic in the South. He doesn't understand the South." < SNIP >

Many Southerners express outrage at Northern depictions of Confederate-loving Southerners, even as they accede to the idea that the flag has a place in their regional heritage. Only those inside the Southern family circle can truly understand the region's complicated relationship with its own history.< SNIP >

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


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KEYWORDS: confederate; dixie; heritage; north1south0; politics; rebs; southernvote; thecivilwarisover; thesouthlost
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1 posted on 05/09/2006 8:33:30 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner

It's been over for a while now.


2 posted on 05/09/2006 8:37:02 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: stainlessbanner
I would say just the opposite of Dr. Dean.

Places like Vermont, New Hampshire and much of California are becoming "estranged" from the rest of our great country.

3 posted on 05/09/2006 8:37:19 PM PDT by llevrok (When they come to take my guns, I will give them the bullets first....)
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To: stainlessbanner
Right now I'm reading The Great Triumvirate: Webster, Clay and Calhoun, and I'm fascinated how what is old becomes new again.
4 posted on 05/09/2006 8:38:15 PM PDT by Publius
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To: stainlessbanner

I believe that Zell Miller will endorse a certain Southerner in 2008.


5 posted on 05/09/2006 8:38:40 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: SteveMcKing

Which one?


6 posted on 05/09/2006 8:44:34 PM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: stainlessbanner

An Italian American writer from Boston wants to explain to us how we are.

That sorta defines why Yankees bug us sometimes.


7 posted on 05/09/2006 8:45:59 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am buying Shelby Steele's new book: White Guilt)
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To: llevrok
Places like Vermont, New Hampshire and much of California are becoming have become "estranged" from the rest of our great country.
8 posted on 05/09/2006 8:48:10 PM PDT by zip (((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))))
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To: stainlessbanner
Interesting read in that my dad was from Scarsdale, NY and my mom was from Albany, GA. Good thing dad was a staunch Republican!
9 posted on 05/09/2006 8:54:00 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: zip
49% of the voters in New Hampshire were for President Bush in 2004.
10 posted on 05/09/2006 8:55:59 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: TR Jeffersonian

ping


11 posted on 05/09/2006 8:57:18 PM PDT by kalee
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To: stainlessbanner
from the article: so too is lingering insensitivity to the painful legacy of slavery, an issue intertwined with the Confederacy.

Slavery was intertwined with the Union too, but everyone seems to ignore that point. Slavery was LEGAL in the Union states of Delaware, Maryland (forced into the Union by locking up politicians who dissented), Kentucky and Missouri.

The great Emancipation Proclamation did not free ONE SLAVE in the "northern" slave states.


Yep... it was all about slavery... at least that's what we've all been told all these years and taught by those same teachers who told us that we should be Democrats because they are "for the people." Yeah... I believe it. < /sarcasm>

12 posted on 05/09/2006 8:57:27 PM PDT by CurlyBill (Democratic Party = Surrender Party)
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To: stainlessbanner

All the democrats have to do to get all those pickup driving confederate flag waving types is to admit that They (the democrats) invented The Confederate flag and all the historic uses of it.

We real southerners, find ya'll embarassin, kinda like a bunch of redheaded idiot cousins we keep behind the woodshed.


13 posted on 05/09/2006 9:00:43 PM PDT by usmcobra (Those that are incited to violence by the sight of OUR flag are the enemies of this nation.)
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To: stainlessbanner

If you want to see a true redneck, stop my where I work here in Kentucky. One of our managers, David, a black guy from southern Mississippi, has a Confederate flag hanging in the back window of his truck. When he is asked about it, he explains that he knows of at least two of his ancestors who volunteered to serve in the Confederate Army, with one of them earning a commendation for valor at the Battle of Yazoo City. He says that right or wrong, that flag is part of his heritage and he will honor that legacy for the rest of his life.


14 posted on 05/09/2006 9:02:18 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson ("I see storms on the horizon")
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To: Stonewall Jackson; CurlyBill
The shills on FR that jump up and down about political parties really don't understand the political history of our Republic.

Besides, being Southern is more than a license plate on a truck, it's a way of life. It's an honor.

15 posted on 05/09/2006 9:09:14 PM PDT by stainlessbanner (Free Travis!)
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To: stainlessbanner

Amen brother!!!!!


16 posted on 05/09/2006 9:12:46 PM PDT by CurlyBill (Democratic Party = Surrender Party)
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To: stainlessbanner

"Our" republic?

I thought you disowned everything that had to do with The US government.


17 posted on 05/09/2006 9:15:20 PM PDT by usmcobra (Those that are incited to violence by the sight of OUR flag are the enemies of this nation.)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Nelson Winbush has a similar story - his grandady served the CSA proudly and received a burial years later with full honors. General Lee was so found of "duty" and "honor", I think many of us uphold those traits today (similar to David). What better way to preserve the American culture?


18 posted on 05/09/2006 9:16:03 PM PDT by stainlessbanner (Free Travis!)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

The left will tell you that there were no black Confederates, and there are some here on FR who actually buy into that same politically-correct and history revisionist stance. The Union won the war and was able to write and revise history. As a result, half of our country was demonized. What a damn shame!


19 posted on 05/09/2006 9:18:22 PM PDT by CurlyBill (Democratic Party = Surrender Party)
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To: CurlyBill

They'll be along shortly to teach us all a history lesson, I'm sure.


20 posted on 05/09/2006 9:19:11 PM PDT by stainlessbanner (Free Travis!)
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