[pcottraux]

It's been over for a while now.

[llevrok]

I would say just the opposite of Dr. Dean.

Places like Vermont, New Hampshire and much of California are becoming "estranged" from the rest of our great country.

[Publius]

Right now I'm reading The Great Triumvirate: Webster, Clay and Calhoun, and I'm fascinated how what is old becomes new again.

[SteveMcKing]

I believe that Zell Miller will endorse a certain Southerner in 2008.

[wardaddy]

An Italian American writer from Boston wants to explain to us how we are.

That sorta defines why Yankees bug us sometimes.

[peggybac]

Interesting read in that my dad was from Scarsdale, NY and my mom was from Albany, GA. Good thing dad was a staunch Republican!

[kalee]

ping

[CurlyBill]

from the article: so too is lingering insensitivity to the painful legacy of slavery, an issue intertwined with the Confederacy.

Slavery was intertwined with the Union too, but everyone seems to ignore that point. Slavery was LEGAL in the Union states of Delaware, Maryland (forced into the Union by locking up politicians who dissented), Kentucky and Missouri.

The great Emancipation Proclamation did not free ONE SLAVE in the "northern" slave states.


Yep... it was all about slavery... at least that's what we've all been told all these years and taught by those same teachers who told us that we should be Democrats because they are "for the people." Yeah... I believe it. < /sarcasm>

[usmcobra]

All the democrats have to do to get all those pickup driving confederate flag waving types is to admit that They (the democrats) invented The Confederate flag and all the historic uses of it.

We real southerners, find ya'll embarassin, kinda like a bunch of redheaded idiot cousins we keep behind the woodshed.

[Stonewall Jackson]

If you want to see a true redneck, stop my where I work here in Kentucky. One of our managers, David, a black guy from southern Mississippi, has a Confederate flag hanging in the back window of his truck. When he is asked about it, he explains that he knows of at least two of his ancestors who volunteered to serve in the Confederate Army, with one of them earning a commendation for valor at the Battle of Yazoo City. He says that right or wrong, that flag is part of his heritage and he will honor that legacy for the rest of his life.

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

Many European American racists were ardent supporters of the Democratic Party.

[capitalist229]

Democrats have always been in charge of the plantations, and they still are...

BUMP

[Little Ray]

War's over. The good guys lost. Happens sometimes. Way past time to move on. I've put away my 3rd National Flag, my copies of Southern Partisan, "So Good a Cause," "The South Was Right," "War for What?" and so on. Maybe I'll pass 'em on to a grandson. If I get lucky.
Nowadays, we have bigger problems (blood-sucking parasites, barbarian invasions, and genocidal religous fanatics); Too bad the Federale's can't (or won't) seem 'em and deal with 'em appropriately and won't listen when we complain about 'em.

[The Sons of Liberty]

To Neil Young and Blowhard Howard Dean:
"Southern man don't need him around..."

[Tribune7]

Didn't the Dems just put up a white supremist as a candidate for something in Alabama?

[gondramB]

>>Many Southerners express outrage at Northern depictions of Confederate-loving Southerners, even as they accede to the idea that the flag has a place in their regional heritage. Only those inside the Southern family circle can truly understand the region's complicated relationship with its own history.<<

My Grand daddy was a Baptist preacher and also mayor of his little town. The only curse word he allowed was damnyankee because it wasn't really two separate words.

memories last a long time.

[foreverfree]

bump

[Liberty Valance]

Long live the North and the South!!!

[Mr. Blonde]

Sorry but to me Patterson Hood and the Drive-by Truckers understand the south way better than any writer for the Boston Globe

The Souther Thing by DBT
Ain't about my pistol
Ain't about my boots
Ain't about no northern drives
Ain't about my southern roots
Ain't about my guitars, ain't about my big old amps
"It ain't rained in weeks, but the weather sure feels damp"
Ain't about excuses or alibis
Ain't about no cotton fields or cotton picking lies
Ain't about the races, the crying shame
To the f****** rich man all poor people look the same

Don't get me wrong It just ain't right
May not look strong, but I ain't afraid to fight
If you want to live another day
Stay out the way of the southern thing

Ain't about no hatred better raise a glass
It's a little about some rebels but it ain't about the past
Ain't about no foolish pride, Ain't about no flag
Hate's the only thing that my truck would want to drag

You think I'm dumb, maybe not too bright
You wonder how I sleep at night
Proud of the glory, stare down the shame
Duality of the southern thing

My Great Great Granddad had a hole in his side
He used to tell the story to the family Christmas night
Got shot at Shiloh, thought he'd die alone
From a Yankee bullet, less than thirty miles from home
Ain't no plantations in my family tree
Did NOT believe in slavery, thought that all men should be free
"But, who are these soldiers marching through my land?"
His bride could hear the cannons and she worried about her man

I heard the story as it was passed down
About guts and glory and Rebel stands
Four generations, a whole lot has changed
Robert E. Lee
Martin Luther King
We've come a long way rising from the flame
Stay out the way of the southern thing

[Alia]

mark.