Posted on 05/09/2006 8:33:28 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
WASHINGTON -- Back in the 2004 presidential primaries, when Howard Dean, former governor of Vermont, suggested that Democrats should be competing for the votes of young men with Confederate flags on their pickups, politicians from both parties rushed to accuse him of repeating a vile Southern stereotype: the redneck with antiquated views on race. < SNIP >
''Howard Dean knows about as much about the South as a hog knows about Sunday," quipped Georgia Senator Zell Miller, the conservative Democrat who supported President Bush. ''Sure, we drive pickups, but on the back of those pickups, you see a lot of American flags. It's the most patriotic region in the country. And you see hard-working individuals that want to instill values in their children, and you see a very, very strong work ethic in the South. He doesn't understand the South." < SNIP >
Many Southerners express outrage at Northern depictions of Confederate-loving Southerners, even as they accede to the idea that the flag has a place in their regional heritage. Only those inside the Southern family circle can truly understand the region's complicated relationship with its own history.< SNIP >
(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...
No, it's mainly the myths.
Ever wonder why Chamberlain, Grant, and many other prominent Union soldiers gave honor to the Confederates?
And as General Chamberlain was giving honor to his defeated enemy, and doing what he could to make it as palitable as possible, what was the response from generals like Henry Wise, former governor of Virginia? From his book, Chamberlain describes the scene: "Chamberlain heard a commotion down the line, and went to investigate--and found Wise arguing with some of his men. Chamberlain sought to help the situation, and remarked to Wise that the good conduct of the troops on both sides boded well for the nation's future. Wise became belligerent, "You are mistaken, Sir, we won't be forgiven. We hate you, and that is the whole of it!"
Obviously the respect was wasted on some.
AMEN!
Convenient memory lapse on your part. Scroll back to my reply 137 where I quoted from the majority opinion in the Legal Tender Cases. The Supreme Court ruled that paper currency was not a violation of the Constitution, and it was the first of many decisions since then that have all upheld the Constitutionality of paper currency. And it the end that is all the evidence I need to provide. And how did you respond? With the typical southron whine that the court was biased. Well boo freakin' hoo. You can provide quotes from Blackstone, Jefferson or Bullwinkle the Moose for all the difference it makes. The fact that you believe paper currency to be a violation of the Constitution is meaningless. The court has ruled on the subject and unless the Constitution is amended or the case is overturned by a future court then get used to dollar bills.
Bingo.
..., creating the greatest constitutional crisis this country has ever seen.
I would place the contempt that the Davis regime had for its constitution higher than anything Lincoln may have done.
What they saw, I'd argue, was honor in the men--fellow Americans--that they fought, not in their cause. Maybe that's just the magnanimous superiority of the victor--"Well, that's over. Let's all be friends again." You see it after a lot of wars. I've seen American WW2 vets embrace the Germans they fought. Doesn't mean they're finding truth and honor in their cause.
Men who have fought each other share something that transcends the political causes that brought them into battle.
Uh...I'm a Southerner, tride and true.
That's right, I responded to just the title instead of the article itself and just tried to make a simple yet ironic little comment. I'm sorry if that offends you.
Actually both Lincoln and Andrew Johnson ran on the National Union Party ticket that year in an effort to reach out to Unionist Democrats, of which Johnson was one.
How about States-Rights Advocate?
or maybe even Pro-South States Righter......
That isn't insulting. :)
I do NOT take his meaning in that way. He has the right to his opinion, my friend. He is a former US Marine, and I would trust his honesty above many others.
stand, you know I defend you often, but sometimes you have to be open-minded. There are others on this forum that hate our heritage. This man is not one.
Well, there were people on both sides that were filled with hate. Wise obviously was one of them. Yes, the respect was wasted in his case.
Offended me? You offended youself by posting before looking. I give you credit for admitting that, however.
Man I love it when you show up, it's put on the popcorn time and laugh my ass off time.
Is the air conditioning broken in the trailer today? You seem a tidge more maniacal than usual.
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I'm American by birth, but Southern by the Grace of God.
1.ANTI-southern diatribes, which could have been (and MAY have been) written by the most extreme REVISIONISTS of the northeastern LEFTISTS from the "poison ivy league schools" lunatic fringe,
2.personal (ad. hominum) attacks on every southerner, who disagreed with his personal views,
3.UNfounded personal opinions,which he passed off as factual and
4. mindLESS, off-point blather,
where, in YOUR opinion, is i go astray in my post #214????
(fwiw, having been a US Marine does NOT make you infallible. furthermore,the last time i looked, "cobra" was also not elected as THE POPE!)
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If a bunch of is did ride up there to help them learn the error of their ways how much publicity do you think we'd get?
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