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Bush will veto any bill to stop port deal
AP ALERT

Posted on 02/21/2006 12:32:20 PM PST by Brian Mosely

ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE (AP) — President Bush says the deal allowing an Arab company to take over six major U.S. seaports should go forward and he will veto any bill that would stop it.


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To: RegulatorCountry

Boy-cott America..!!! Buy Southern..


761 posted on 02/21/2006 1:55:34 PM PST by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: nikola
What a dumb decision. Bush is really out of touch.

I'll bet Bush's two national election victories and two confirmed conservative Supreme Court Justices that you are witnessing yet another game where he holds his cards until his opponents have shown all of theirs.

When the facts about port management come out, all the Know-Nothings will shamelessly move on to the next non-issue of the day. This is simply another comical example of rabid lemmings following each other over a cliff in profound ignorance.

762 posted on 02/21/2006 1:55:48 PM PST by rmgatto
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Excellent analogy to Carter and the Shah. Thanks


763 posted on 02/21/2006 1:55:52 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: DJ MacWoW
I'm not for this deal but I agree about the digust in regards to the disrespect for the Pres. There's no need for it.

Like you, I have repeatedly stated that on its face, this deal stink, but we do not have facts yet.

As for the talk of impeachment and Bushing bashing, the latter is par for the course here everyday. It's the oxygen for some posters.

764 posted on 02/21/2006 1:55:56 PM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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To: Howlin

Howlin,

I think what's happened here is this deal has uncovered a significant amount of frustration in the electorate vis-a-vis the War on Terror, the Homeland Security apparatus, border protection, and other national security issues. We've had a color-coded terror threat assessment chart hanging over our head for four years now, we keep hearing about the War on Terror, and yet the borders are an absolute seive -- but we've gotta be listening in on phone conversations without a court order. The message being: You can get the device inside the United States, but we'll eavesdrop on your phone calls if you do! (Scared yet?)

So the port deal comes along, and everyone is like WTF? Is there or isn't there a war on terror? Whether or not that's a rational reaction, it's an understandable one, given the lack of information regarding the actual terrorist threat to the United States? Is there one? It's time for the White House to lay a card or two on the table - and I'm not talking about Library Tower 2001. Either stop pumping the WOT or act like it matters. Until the borders are taken seriously, I can't take the WOT seriously, and frankly, our ports are just another name for "border entry". I'm willing to believe this is innocuous up and down. But if this is acceptable, what else is and what else should be?


765 posted on 02/21/2006 1:56:10 PM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: Diddle E. Squat

yep, you said it well


766 posted on 02/21/2006 1:56:18 PM PST by prairiebreeze (The Mainstream Media: today's carnival barkers.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
. . . and the 9/11 terrorists were cab drivers.

Right. And we should never let companies from the Middle East own flight schools in the U.S., because we all know that U.S. flight schools would NEVER accept Muslims who are only interested in flying passenger jets into tall buildings.

/EXTREME SARCASM OFF/

767 posted on 02/21/2006 1:56:27 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: Brian Mosely

His first veto would to insure that US ports are run by an Arab government company. Pathetic. If he does this it will be a stick into the eye of his base and will be a lot worse than Miers-gate.


768 posted on 02/21/2006 1:56:32 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: verity
I recall this response to conservative hysteria.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1570054/posts?page=27#27
769 posted on 02/21/2006 1:56:36 PM PST by new yorker 77 (Conservatives who eat their own are a liberal's best friend.)
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To: YOUGOTIT
"I really am from the world. In my 24 1/2 years of military service I served in Korea, Vietnam, Belgium, Holland, Italy and several other places. Over 15 years outside CONUS. So I think I know something about shipping at ports."

But just cause you been to Chin Hae or Pusan or Che Ju Do or Gaeta don't mean you know about what goes on at the docks. If you haven't worked them or have close relations and friends that work them or the merchants, then you would be very surprised what goes on.
770 posted on 02/21/2006 1:56:38 PM PST by markedman (Islam means surrender, and I will NEVER surrender!)
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To: Lazamataz
Suspend the Bill of Rights? Your going to sit there and tell me thats the same thing? Thats very very thin... Just because you disagree with him does not mean he has to back off in what he believes in. If he wants to make this deal happen, he will push for it. If congress stops him, thats it. Whats the issue? Let it work itself out. Sometimes you win and other times you lose. Bush will probably lose this fight, but atleast he fought it and didn't back off like some lame duck. Even if its something the majority of us disagree with. Infact this can help the republican congress for the 06 elections. It will show that they are "tougher" on terror and do not always agree with Bush on every topic. They are not "mindless robots doing his bidding", as some libs claim. I look at it as a lose for Bush and a Win for the republican congress in the eyes of the american people. Maybe Bush is just taken one for the team for the 06 elections. There is a method to the madness, let it work itself out.
771 posted on 02/21/2006 1:56:49 PM PST by Pimpmygop (The right way is not always the nice way!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Are you talking about Bush?


772 posted on 02/21/2006 1:56:51 PM PST by sangrila
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To: everyone

I think it's foolish to assume that Bush made these decisions without any sort of thought process involved. So apparently, people now believe the liberals, and agree that Bush can't think on his own? How about we get the facts first. Here's some interesting things to consider:

1. The UAE is on our side on the war on terrorism. We need to keep them on our side.
2. Security is still completely run by the Department of Homeland Security.
3. The critics, including the Republican critics all have political points that they hope to gain by calling Bush an idiot. Democrats hope to look like they are big on security. Rather though, they will just look like a bunch of racist.
4. The deal has been extensively examined by the administration. I believe that.

Bush said something interesting: "They ought to listen to what I have to say about this. They'll look at the facts and understand the consequences of what they're going to do. But if they pass a law, I'll deal with it with a veto."


773 posted on 02/21/2006 1:57:00 PM PST by cmurphy
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To: Brian Mosely

can anyone explain to me why this story has caused so much problem when no one seemed to give a damn when Carter gave away the Panama Canal and the Chinese Communists took over both ends of the Canal ?

oh, I understand the present questions, just find it interesting there was so little grief at the Panama Canal turnover to the Chicoms.


774 posted on 02/21/2006 1:57:10 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: DOGEY

"What's to explain away? If middle east countries banned US companies, how would you feel?"

How about a slightly different take:
I served in the USN, was off the coast of Yemen during their civil war. We had to refuel in Saudi, Jeddah. They wouldn't let us off the ship. Not even on the pier. Didn't want us fouling up their paradise.

Try building a Christian Church anywhere in the region. Good luck. I don't know the facts, but I'm certain their rules on doing business with them are similarly as restrictive.

They are the enemy until proven to be otherwise.

Hitler only took Poland, he doesn't want anything else. Let him have it. He's not a threat. Nazis and islam, all the same to me.


775 posted on 02/21/2006 1:57:30 PM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Our President's main charge is to protect and defend us.

If it is all messed up with who is maintaining security on the ports, then we all need to understand it and be vigilant. Bush's reluctance to explain and articulate reveals a sort of post Cold War mentality of secrecy. You go off to WalMart and have babies. We in the government will fight the secret war on terror.

Doesn't work in an open society. Bush is on stage and he needs to remember there is no such thing as secrecy in the internet age. Can't run the White House like the secret seventies era CIA like his Dad did.
776 posted on 02/21/2006 1:57:37 PM PST by Californiajones ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy" - Thomas Aquinas)
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To: jimbo123
Would this be his first veto ever? I don't understand why he wants to drive away a large percentage of his base with this decision.

Because he's not going to be running for anything else in his life.

777 posted on 02/21/2006 1:57:51 PM PST by steveegg (Sen. Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy's vehicles have killed more people than V.P. Dick Cheney's guns)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I was absolutely against this deal until reading posts like yours. I admit to forming my opinion before the facts were in.


778 posted on 02/21/2006 1:57:56 PM PST by Feiny ("Muslims are the only people who make feminists seem laid-back." Ann Coulter)
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To: Howlin; Diddle E. Squat
The same article was posted on the 11th with 89 replies.

Company From United Arab Emirates Poised to Oversee Six American Ports Due to Sale

779 posted on 02/21/2006 1:58:01 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: onyx
I will not jump aboard the hysteria train. It's full anyway

LOL! My feelings, too. But I think Bush should explain this to us. Actually, IIRC, all of these businesses were American-owned, and Bill Clinton was the first one to permit the sale of sensitive businesses to foreigners (with the first sale of the port business to the Brits).

Also, ports, airlines, etc. are very international businesses - many of our major airports are managed by British companies. So I doubt that this is going to have any day to day impact. Furthermore, there are many ME countries and nationals that own lots of things in the US - I believe the Bin Laden family owns some buildings in NYC.

That said, I don't think it's a bad thing for ME countries to see that Americans are less than enthusiastic about them. The UAE has been more or less supportive of the US, but like any Islamic country, their government itself is under the gun from AQ and similar forces, so I think it's good to be wary. But I think the hysteria is politically motivated and whipped up by Dems, which is a laugh, since the Dem party is the greatest Fifth Column ever seen.

780 posted on 02/21/2006 1:58:02 PM PST by livius
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