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Designed to deceive: Creation can't hold up to rigors of science
CONTRA COSTA TIMES ^ | 12 February 2006 | John Glennon

Posted on 02/12/2006 10:32:27 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: Ichneumon
Here's what you're missing, moron -- it's not "within the pre-existing genetics". It's a *different* set of genetics.

I haven't missed that claim, nor am I missing the semantics. It's corn. Just like Irish setter and Great Dane are dogs - Canines. Semantics. You want to hide from the simple in hopes people get lost in the details. It's still corn.

861 posted on 02/14/2006 1:46:40 PM PST by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: Havoc
"Dogs and wolves. Wolves are dogs. Splain yourself. Right - can't. Next inanity."

Yes, your point is inane.

"Corn is being used as a generic for a species just as "Dog" is here."

And it's incorrect to do so. *Corn* doesn't mean species any more than *dog* does.

"Corn is corn. When it becomes something not-corn you got macro (species). Until then it's micro (breed)."

No. YOU don't get to make up the definitions of species because it suits you. There are a number of species of corn.
862 posted on 02/14/2006 1:47:27 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Right Wing Professor

I think you need to go back and read all my commentary. I believe I otherwise noted that inability is limited. But nice decietful attempt at a gotcha.


863 posted on 02/14/2006 1:48:52 PM PST by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: furball4paws
Damn! Back to the Sand Box.

You need a 'SRC="some_url"' specifier in your "<IMG>" tag. And that needs to refer to an online photo, it won't work (for anyone else) if it references an image on your hard drive. If you need to host a local image on the internet somewhere, use http://imageshack.us. That site is also good for "rehosting" an image you've found elsewhere on the internet, in order to give it a more reliable home (in case the original site goes down, or modifies/removes its copy of the image).

864 posted on 02/14/2006 1:49:25 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Havoc
[Here's what you're missing, moron -- it's not "within the pre-existing genetics". It's a *different* set of genetics.]

I haven't missed that claim, nor am I missing the semantics.

Fine, then you're just lying about it. Have it your way.

It's corn.

This in no way rescues your falsehood about genetics.

Keep it up, I love it when anti-evolutionists make it clear that they can't conduct even the most basic science discussion without revealing gross incompetence and/or dishonesty -- it makes it *very* clear to the lurkers why you guys have no leg to stand on when it comes to crafting a science curriculum for the schools.

865 posted on 02/14/2006 1:52:57 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Havoc
"Just like Irish setter and Great Dane are dogs - Canines."

Now you are jumping to family level. Canidae is the family that includes all the dogs, and has 35 different species in it.

http://www.lioncrusher.com/family.asp?family=Canidae
866 posted on 02/14/2006 1:53:13 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Ichneumon

I referenced http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Calamity_Jane_on_a_horse.gif

no go (that's Calamity Jane)

I referenced

http://www.outlawwomen.com/PokerAlice.jpg

for Poker Alice - no go

The only thing I can think of is that these addresses won't allow referencing. I'll try again.


867 posted on 02/14/2006 1:53:47 PM PST by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: Ken H

You can always hope. If you wish to delude yourselves, don't let me stand in the way. I'm applauding your efforts and demanding that you shout your message louder longer and with more energy. I agree with Limbaugh. The strategy worked with the dims and it is working with you guys so far. More, more more. The public just doesn't get it.. repeat that to yourself over and over and then go ye therefore and run your yaps splainin it to them.


868 posted on 02/14/2006 1:55:07 PM PST by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: furball4paws
The only thing I can think of is that these addresses won't allow referencing. I'll try again.

They do, you're just not entering the HTML correctly. Type it into your message like this:

<img src="http://www.outlawwomen.com/PokerAlice.jpg">
It'll come out like this:


869 posted on 02/14/2006 1:56:50 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
But it is no longer a wolf, from which it speciated thousands of years ago.

Oh, really, produce the wolf it speciated from thousands of years ago. Not a drawing of a concept, the real thing.. oops.

It was a dog then, it's a dog now. The two are defined as seperate species for reasons even your own can't fully defend. I know. I've seen evos back away from it quickly because that is how loosely "species" is defined. Scientists debating the matter with your "dangerous" (snickering) Dr. Dino have had to admit as much publically because they could not run from that fact. That's the truth in stone. Deal with it.

870 posted on 02/14/2006 1:59:58 PM PST by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: furball4paws
...and the problem with your other picture is that you were using the URL for the *article* about the image, not the URL of the image itself. For the image, use:
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/Calamity_Jane_on_a_horse.gif">

To find the URL for an *image* you see on a web page, right-click on the image and select "Properties" from the popup menu. It'll show you the Address/URL, you can copy/paste it by selecting it with your mouse (i.e. highlighting it), then hitting "Ctrl-C" or right-click and select "Copy" from the popup menu.

871 posted on 02/14/2006 2:00:53 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
I swear that's what I did, but I guess not.


872 posted on 02/14/2006 2:01:59 PM PST by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Dog is a classification the public is fully aware of. So is Corn. Just because you want to hide doesn't mean we have to let you. Swat and throw a tantrum. I don't care. You aren't getting away with it and you know it and it's eating you up.
Swat at me all you will, this stuff is why you're a fraud it the eyes of rational human beings called the "general public" who may not have degrees but have the sense given a rock to know a dog from a non-dog and corn from non-corn.

Complex things are not so complex that they cannot be simplified to make people understand them. And in most cases, they'll simplify it themselves when they do. They don't need five latin words to say corn. If you do, that's your problem.


873 posted on 02/14/2006 2:03:56 PM PST by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: Ichneumon

OK, now I want to draw some chemical models and post them. I save them as a jpg file and upload them to imageshack and the reference them there?


874 posted on 02/14/2006 2:03:58 PM PST by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: Right Wing Professor; longshadow
I'm afraid I disagree.

All of his fellow inmates call him "perfesser". Doesnt that count for something?

875 posted on 02/14/2006 2:05:10 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

They're all dogs. Caught on yet, or do you need a picture?


876 posted on 02/14/2006 2:06:06 PM PST by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: Havoc
[But it is no longer a wolf, from which it speciated thousands of years ago.]

Oh, really, produce the wolf it speciated from thousands of years ago. Not a drawing of a concept, the real thing.. oops.

Not until you produce your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather. The real thing -- until then we can't accept that you're actually human. Oops!

Clue for the clueless: There are more ways to establish familial reliationships and common ancestry than just producing an old corpse. But hey, you wouldn't know anything about that, because you're a know-nothing creationist who is pig-ignorant about biology.

Now run along and go bother someone your own mental age.

It was a dog then, it's a dog now.

To borrow a stupidity from creationist Ken Ham: "Excuse me, were you there?" You're just stating your ignorant presumption as if you had actually established its truth. You haven't. Biologists, on the other hand, have overwhelming evidence of the common ancestry of domestic dogs and wolves. But again, you wouldn't know anything about that, because you're so *proud* of your utter ignorance that you've never bothered to get an education on this topic before you spout off, just like almost all of the other loudmouthed anti-evolutionists.

877 posted on 02/14/2006 2:07:12 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: furball4paws
OK, now I want to draw some chemical models and post them. I save them as a jpg file and upload them to imageshack and the reference them there?

Exactly. After uploading them to ImageShack, it'll even provide you with easy cut-and-paste samples of "code" you can use in various contexts to present the image. Use the "Hotlink for Websites" ones, it's appropriate for HTML venues such as FreeRepublic. There are a couple of "Hotlink for Forums" types, but FreeRepublic won't recognize those, they're for online forums that use a different kind of linking syntax.

878 posted on 02/14/2006 2:10:07 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon

Right, Dogs are dogs but came from something else and as proof, we won't produce what they came for just as we'll call a different breed of Dog a species so that we can say evolution took place instead of variation...

Hint: nobody bought this nutbag attempt and the public knows what a dog is even if you too ideologically smart to be any earthly good evolutionists don't.


879 posted on 02/14/2006 2:10:40 PM PST by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: Havoc
"Dog is a classification the public is fully aware of."

The public is wrong. *Dog* consist of a number of different species.

" Just because you want to hide doesn't mean we have to let you."

This is hysterical!

"You aren't getting away with it and you know it and it's eating you up."

Projection is a bitch.


"They're all dogs. Caught on yet, or do you need a picture?"

So a fox is the same *kind* as a chihuahua?
880 posted on 02/14/2006 2:15:35 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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