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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 5
Various News Outlets | 7/4/05

Posted on 07/04/2005 6:39:22 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba.

AP photo


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aruba; bethholloway; boycottaruba; fubaruba; jossymansur; kalpoes; mariainecroes; natalee; nataleeholloway; rubentrapenberg; vandersloots
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To: TexKat

"Perhaps we will find out tomorrow on Greta. The interview is to be continued."

It seems unlikely that the chaperone who called Beth would have been using a cellphone placed in svc by the aruban company, and also as unlikely that his "major friend" in the US would have any interest in discovering anything nefarious regarding the chaperone and call to Beth.

I think the call referred to in the interview is most certainly a different call. There would be no reason for he and Beth to have listened to her convo with the chaperone 3 times as stated in the interview.


1,421 posted on 07/06/2005 8:29:44 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: BunnySlippers

But I had mine for 3 weeks:)You just made yours up tonight.I think I should be worried:)I just change my tagline.


1,422 posted on 07/06/2005 8:31:45 PM PDT by fatima (Make a move and the BunnySlippers gets it.-Guess what movie)
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To: JustAnotherHolloway
As I said in an earlier post, I didn't think she wanted us to know something but the more I consider that, the more I wonder. Here is an excerpt from Greta's interview with Charles Croes, the cell phone rental company guy:

VAN SUSTEREN: During the time that you were talking to Beth at the gas station, did the discussion of that phone call come up again?

C. CROES: Yes, it did.

VAN SUSTEREN: After you and Beth listened to that phone call several times and hung up with the person in the states, what did you do next?

C. CROES: After that, we spoke a while. And then we left that location with the intention of going to the Holiday Inn to continue meeting. On the way there, a young man and I were sitting in my car. And on the way there, instinctively, I wanted to go to drive off, pull over to the cabana area, just to look to see if perhaps she was there.

Then Croes decides to stop at the cabana? Whatever call he listened to apparently didn't rule out that Natalee was both alive and on the island at that point.

1,423 posted on 07/06/2005 8:32:36 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
I think the call referred to in the interview is most certainly a different call. There would be no reason for he and Beth to have listened to her convo with the chaperone 3 times as stated in the interview.

That is what I am saying. Evidently it was not explained tonight, perhaps it will be explained tomorrow in the remainder of the interview.

1,424 posted on 07/06/2005 8:34:04 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
A thread on CTV ...

http://boards.courttv.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=230476

1,425 posted on 07/06/2005 8:34:49 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Make a move and Fatima gets it.-Guess what movie)
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To: fatima

LOL


1,426 posted on 07/06/2005 8:35:56 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Ask Fatima About My Tagline ...)
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To: Palladin

Is it both the brothers who may sue, or just one of them?

And under what law in Aruba would they sue? There doesn't seem to be ANYTHING you can do that's a crime down there.


1,427 posted on 07/06/2005 8:36:13 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: BunnySlippers
A thread on CTV ...

http://boards.courttv.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=230476

Um Ha!!

1,428 posted on 07/06/2005 8:39:28 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Howlin

I think they are just blowing hot air. If their civil court system is as crazy as their criminal court system, it would probably take 50 years to settle a civil suit.


1,429 posted on 07/06/2005 8:39:51 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: txrangerette

I wonder if the chaperone happened to say on the phone that, in checking around for Natalee, they had heard that she was last seen getting in that car with three guys.


1,430 posted on 07/06/2005 8:40:11 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Dolphy

IMO, that was a bizarre interview; he acted like a psyhic, with all that "I just felt like going here......and then here."


1,431 posted on 07/06/2005 8:42:16 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

That is possible. If Beth believed from the start that she was kidnapped, then any talk of her being seen going off with three guys would translate to "she was kidnapped by three guys". However, I believe Beth refused to think of Natalee being dead, so whatever was or wasn't said by the chaperone, I think Beth would think "kidnapping", not murder or manslaughter or negligent homicide or accidental death, etc.


1,432 posted on 07/06/2005 8:45:22 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I agree with you on the 2 different calls. It sounds like the call GoodLookingCellPhoneDude was speaking of was a message left on someone's answering machine, or voice mail. I am thinking answering machine because if the message had been left on a cell phone, wouldn't Beth have taken that phone with her for evidence? Of course she was incapable of thinking anything thru at that point. I am still amazed at how much info she was able to put together before 2 am June 1.From the clues she got from that call, she was able to track down a vehicle, and 4 suspect and their homes! She is amazing. I am aching for her tonight.


1,433 posted on 07/06/2005 8:45:23 PM PDT by HoHoeHeaux
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To: txrangerette

I agree with that.


1,434 posted on 07/06/2005 8:46:08 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Yaelle

I lived in the Caribbean for years and I can tell you for a fact that many of these young girls come down looking for booze,drugs and sex, regardless of their "reputation" at home. I hope they fine NH, but I can also tell you that when it comes to 24/7 partying some of these kids will stop at nothing. I don't know where the parents where when she hooked up with three strange young men. There seemed to be pretty many young men from the University to hang around with. As a mother of three young college age boys I can tell you the boys may have dropped her off as they said and she went out to look for someone else to party with. Have they checked the boats going in and out of the Aruba harbor? Could she have joined up with a party group boating or sailing in the Caribben and found herself in the middle of the Carribean sea the next morning?

I have not seen any evidence that the boys are not telling the truth.

Could she have been so drunk that she walked on the beach, passed out and drowned? No, that would not be enough Drama for the MSM, including Greta who's show seems to have turned into a Drama Queen Tag Team Match.


1,435 posted on 07/06/2005 8:46:53 PM PDT by not2worry (What goes around comes around!)
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To: Howlin

Surely the chaperone and Natalees friends would have been discussing any chronology that was known at that time, and chaperone would have shared all of it with Beth.


1,436 posted on 07/06/2005 8:50:47 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: not2worry
I have not seen any evidence that the boys are not telling the truth.

The three men have admitted to lying.

1,437 posted on 07/06/2005 8:50:55 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: not2worry

Oh boy, let me move out of the way!!


1,438 posted on 07/06/2005 8:52:49 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: HoHoeHeaux

perhaps the "listen 3 times" bit refers to cellphone voicemail that wasn't deleted.


1,439 posted on 07/06/2005 8:53:30 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Yes it very well could have been. I used the term 'voice mail'...meaning a cell phone message. Sorry I wasn't clear!

As for the latest posts, I am going to pass. It's redundant. (o:


1,440 posted on 07/06/2005 8:56:37 PM PDT by HoHoeHeaux
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