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LIVE THREAD: SCHIAVO AUTOPSY PRESS CONFERENCE11:00 AM EST FROM CLEARWATER, FLA
ABC Action News Local Affiliate, Tampa, FL | June 15, 2005 | Floriduh Voter

Posted on 06/15/2005 7:59:51 AM PDT by floriduh voter

This is news/activism. Terri Schindler Schiavo is still in the headlines. The death lobby shouldn't kid themselves. We are not going to forget...

LIVE THREAD of Terri Schiavo Autopsy Press Conference. It begins at 11:00 pm est from Clearwater, Florida at the Medical Examiner's Office right down the road from where Terri was starved & dehydrated to death.

The ME will have to address that hmmmmmmmm?

John Throgmartin, ME, here he goes. Dr. Steven Nelson joins him. HERE WE GO.


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KEYWORDS: autopsy; clearwater; euthanasia; fl; link; logansrun; presser; schiavo; schiavoautopsy; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler; whitewash
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To: logic
They knew she had severe menstrual cramps because she told them she did, right?

Well, she must have "told them" through some sort of communication, otherwise the Tylenol would not have been prescribed for cramps. A scrunched up face, some moaning, pulling her legs up would be enough to "tell them."

961 posted on 06/15/2005 11:01:48 AM PDT by Dasaji (Are the voices in my head bothering you?)
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To: Howlin
"So you're admitting that he ruled out Michael causing her collapse?"

Oh! I see I used a word that you could twist to suit your agenda.

I am saying there was no evidence of.
1. Heart Attack
2. Bolima, anorxia
3. Drug overdose
4. Truama to bones (other than osteoporosis)

The medical examinor after the autopsy is still left with the mystery of what actually caused Terri Schiavo's initial collapse. So therefore he cannot rule out that Michael had a hand in it nor is it his place to do so.

962 posted on 06/15/2005 11:01:49 AM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: floriduh voter
Wouldn't you be afraid if you were being murdered?

There was no murder here. What are you talking about?

963 posted on 06/15/2005 11:02:13 AM PDT by Kretek (WPPFF)
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To: HairOfTheDog

You wouldn't believe me either. You see, when the person came running out filled with emotion and excitement to tell what happened, he ran up to me and another to breathlessly tell us. We were the first two to hear it! Am I to believe my lying eyes and ears or you?

I posted it a short while later on the thread at the time even before Atty. Waller announced it to the public.

"Those who have ears, let them hear.."


964 posted on 06/15/2005 11:02:14 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: downtoliberalism
Her brain weighed 6 grams. You are suggesting she was aware.

And you know, without a reasonable doubt, that she had absolutely no awareness whatsoever and that she should therefore be put to death via dehydration and starvation?

965 posted on 06/15/2005 11:02:24 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: floriduh voter
I've only seen hate-filled language from the death to Terri crowd.

There is no "death to Terri crowd" you delusional and hateful fool.

966 posted on 06/15/2005 11:02:40 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

What unmitigating bullshit.

One doctor who said there was hope was a laughingtock in court. He advertises in the National Inquirer, only accepts cash and when he said he's helped lots of patients like Terri, he couldn't provide the name or documentation of even ONE.

The other doctor who testified there was hope didn't know the difference between PVS and a coma.

It's all in the court documents. But I know it's so much more fun to make stuff up.

The Schindlers were allowed to bring any two doctors to court they wanted. Those two nutjobs are the ones they chose.

And THEY admitted under oath they KNEW there was no hope.

And your comments about Michael and what I support are complete crap.


967 posted on 06/15/2005 11:02:47 AM PDT by Peach
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To: possumdawg

So the ME was there when it happened?
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I realize that it is pure speculation on my part, but I am just guessing that the ME has more of a chance of knowing then any of us.


968 posted on 06/15/2005 11:02:47 AM PDT by downtoliberalism ("A coalition partner must do more than just express sympathy, a coalition partner must perform,")
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To: the Deejay

But how do they get the needle in the first place? They have prescriptions for heroin?

And remember, Michael worked in health care, so he had access to these items.


969 posted on 06/15/2005 11:02:49 AM PDT by TBP
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To: floriduh voter; Jim Robinson; Sidebar Moderator

>>>This is news/activism. Terri Schindler Schiavo is still in the headlines.


Jim + Mods: This was VERY big BREAKING news just a short while ago.

Is the fact that it is now just a tiny bit 'heated' enough
to justify shoving it to the SMOKEY Back Room where NO ONE wil find it?

Wont OTHER PEOPLE then start EVEN MORE threads on this same subject??


970 posted on 06/15/2005 11:02:52 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (formerly FL_Engineer) (It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter.-JimRobinson)
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To: cyncooper
I don't think freepers can continue to dismiss the M.E. as having white washed anything.

Wanna bet? There are plenty here who said at the beginning that they would never accept the findings. Guess they knew the evidence wouldn't support their feelings.

I actually had a fellow Freeper on another thread tell me that the ME was part of a conspiracy!

971 posted on 06/15/2005 11:03:15 AM PDT by highball
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To: onyx; sinkspur; MarMema; cyncooper
Chart of States for Insulin Prescription Requirements
972 posted on 06/15/2005 11:03:27 AM PDT by debg
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To: HairOfTheDog
SO is it grandstaning when the citizens elect a president or do you use that terminology only when you disagree with premise. Hey - that is what we get for being a Republic. Darn those founding fathers....
973 posted on 06/15/2005 11:03:34 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Howlin
The laws of this country give ME the right to decide how and if I want to die at the end of my life or an illness.

Really? So, if you had a handgun and told the police that you were going to end your life with it, they're just going to leave you alone and let you do it? I thought you said that the laws of this country said it was legal - so why would the cops stop you?

974 posted on 06/15/2005 11:03:54 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Peach
I do not think it can be successfully argued by anyone that Terri was not alive.

The discussion is about her quality of life, and who should have the right to end it.

I am of the belief that no one has the right to arbitrarily end a life, no matter what the relationship to that person is.........unless the will of the person is in writing. Therefore, I do not believe that Michael Schiavo had the right to ask for the end of Terri's life.

I need to leave now, but you and I are of one accord on most things, and what we all need to do is pray for this nation, that it will not go down a path that cavalierly ends the lives of the handicapped, or damaged because they cause inconvenience or expense.

I know you don't, and regardless of what our views are on this particular case, we are in agreement about that.

Pray for this nation, and the President who seeks to guide it back to being a culture of Life.

976 posted on 06/15/2005 11:04:12 AM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: Spiff

Food and hydration ARE considered life support under Florida law.

You may not like it, but people die this way every day in this country.


977 posted on 06/15/2005 11:04:13 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Chena

Well, I probably missed the posts you are referring to because I was at the location of the death camp for two weeks with other freepers and hundreds of all kinds of people who know that murder is a sin and is illegal.


978 posted on 06/15/2005 11:04:16 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.terrisfight.org & www.conservative-spirit.org... The Schindlers "Never again.")
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To: the Deejay
Look--I was strictly pointing out that your assertion regarding purchase of insulin and insulin syringes requiring a prescription in the state of Florida is false .

Do yourself a favor and don't infer anything more into my post.

979 posted on 06/15/2005 11:04:28 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: Peach

You know, I have my opinion, and I think I understand both sides, and have empathy with either. My question is how and why people are in a wholesale attack on each other, when I think I'm reading that both sides agree on so many things.

I see valid arguments on each side, but I'm not seeing many of them here. Shame the anger doesn't channel itself into, this is what's wrong, let's fix it.

Not that it's any of my business....


980 posted on 06/15/2005 11:04:28 AM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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