Posted on 01/29/2005 6:12:28 AM PST by NYer
Hamilton, Ontario, Jan. 28, 2005 (CNA) - Canadian archaeologist Russell Adams, a professor at McMaster University has recently unearthed evidence, which helps to show the historical accuracy of the Bible.
Professor Adams and his team of colleagues have found information that points to the existence of the Biblical Kingdom of Edom existing at precisely the time Scripture claims it existed.
The evidence flies in the face of a common belief that Edom actually came into existence at least 200 years later.
According to the Canadian Globe and Mail, the group’s findings “mean that those scholars convinced that the Hebrew Old Testament is at best a compendium of revisionist, fragmented history, mixed with folklore and theology, and at worst a piece of outright propaganda, likely will have to apply the brakes to their thinking.”
The Kingdom of Edom, mentioned throughout the Old Testament, and a continuous source of hostility for Biblical Israel, is thought to have existed in what is now southern Jordan.
The group made their discovery while investigating a copper mining site called Khirbat en-Nahas.
According to the Globe and Mail, radiocarbon dating of their finds, “firmly established that occupation of the site began in the 11th century BC and a monumental fortress was built in the 10th century BC, supporting the argument for existence of an Edomite state at least 200 years earlier than had been assumed.”
The evidence is also said to suggest that the Kingdom existed at the same time David, who scripture recounts as warring with Edom, was king over Israel.
Absolutely. I've long been puzzled by Christians who discount the relevancy of the Old Testament. The Old Testament is the New Testament concealed. The New Testament is the Old Testament revealed. They are intricately and inseparably meshed, one beautiful unified story.
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Out of context? LOL, and James 'never got it"? So YOU and YOU ALONE cane toss out sections of the Holy Writ? How special.
"The Catholic Church worships man the Pope and Priests and Idols."
Where did you learn such nonsense?
"As Luther noted, James could just as well have been left out of the Bible."
So, for those here who "obey the Bible 100%", James is just not really included? Your 'authority' is a man named Luther?
LOL, what a hoot. Luther was NUTS. He supported BIGAMY. He rejected books from the BIBLE.
Anyone who takes LUTHER as an authority has to accept his lunacy. For over a THOUSAND YEARS the CANON of the BIBLE was fixed. Then along came LUTHER.
Save it Floyd, you want to pick-n-choose scripture. You want MORE AUTHORITY than ANY POPE ever asked for.
Great article NYer. Thanks for posting it.
Mindless ridicule? LUTHER defended BIGAMY and tried to rewrite the BIBLE. Ridiculous, yes. But my pointing that out isn't mindless, it is mindful of who you accept as an authority - LUTHER - and who you reject - GOD, the author of the BIBLE.
Narses, the Catholic Church also rejected books from the Bible. The Catholic Bible does not contain all the books originally in the Septuagint translation of the Hebrew Bible. If you are going to condemn Luther for "rejecting" books from the Bible, you should consider the fact that the Catholic Church did exactly the same thing. Perhaps Luther was merely following the lead of the Catholic church.
The Catholic Church defined the Bible Rokke. Luther, as an individual, tried to redefine it. He also defended BIGAMY. Hold him up as an ICON if you want, but be prepared to embrace all of him if you do.
Do a little more research. The Catholic Church adopted the Septaugint translation of the original Hebrew Bible for the Old Testament. However, over time, the Catholic Church rejected some of the books from the Septaugint translation (which had actually added several books to the Hebrew Bible). Facts are facts. And I certainly don't hold Luther up as an icon. He was merely human.
"Maybe the Holy Writ isn't good enough for you, but clearly both the Archangel Gabriel and St. Elizabeth ARE quoted saying these EXACT things in the Bible, citations above."
I do not dispute that the Archangel Gabriel and Elizabeth both said these things. What I do not comprehend is how this translates to elevating Mary as a deity to be prayed to.
Christ never ever prayed to his mother, and there is no scripture that he ever instructed us to do so.
This is not about being good enough, it is about trying to comprehend why it is done.
Our works are the fruits of our faith. We have been chosen by God at the foundation of the world. There was nothing we could do by works before we were born to have our names written there.
Are you an overseer of Christians ?
I don't think your quotation makes the point.
Why did Jesus tell Mary not to touch him for He had not ascended to His Father?
Why did Jesus spit in dust and rub the mud in a blind man's eyes?
Why did Jesus Jesus cleanse the temple on that particular trip when he had seen those activities His entire life?
Why did Jesus die on the Passover Friday?
Why did Jesus rise on Sunday?
I can go on and on. Christians misread and misapply New Testament Scriptures because they are ignorant of the foundational truths.
The four-fold methods of hermeneutics were pretty much discarded in the Middle Ages. A Christ-centric approach to the entire Scripture is the more appropriate methodology. Hin Hebrews it says "in the VOLUME OF THE BOOK it is written of Me". Jesus told his followers, "Search the scriptures [that was the Old Testament] they are that which testify of Me." In Luke "He expounded unto them in all the Scriptures [OT] the things concerning Himself. And John said "We have found Him of whom Moses in the law and the prophets did write."
But I find that many Christians deny themselves of the very thing Jesus worked to impart in His flock. They only want the highly refined foods, and shun the staples of the diet. They act as though Jesus entered the scene in a manger in Bethlehem.
Hin = In
Christ never said this, Elizabeth said it there is a huge difference. Christ taught us how to pray and he never made Mary any part of his prayer.
Christ taught us how to pray 'The Our Father'. Is this the only prayer you pray? Who taught you the others?
Christ followed the Ten Commandments, which command us to "Honor your mother and father". From the cross, He entrusted His mother to the care of John
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When Jesus saw his mother 11 and the disciple there whom he loved, he said to his mother, "Woman, behold, your son."
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Then he said to the disciple, "Behold, your mother." And from that hour the disciple took her into his home.
John 19:26-27
Notice He didn't say "Please take care of my mother." Mary was not St. John's physical mother, yet the dying Lord tells him "Behold your Mother". St. John represents all Christians here; Jesus is giving the "Woman" - the New Eve - to all Christians as their spiritual Mother.
All honor given to Mary, is given to Christ Himself. Catholics do not pray to Mary. We ask her to pray for us. As highly exalted as Mary is, she is still nothing in comparison to her Son and Creator. When we consider Mary's greatness, we remember that God is infinitely greater, and are struck with wonder!
Mary is the Mother of Jesus, we are His brothers and sisters, so Mary is our Mother as well. Though she did not physically give birth to us, she gave Jesus the Sacred Body of which we have become members (Ephesians 5:29). We are all united to the very same Flesh which Jesus drew from the Virgin, so she is, in a very real sense, our Mother in the order of the Redemption.
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