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To: Just mythoughts; sartorius; Convert from ECUSA; narses
"When Elizabeth praises Mary, saying "Blessed art thou amongst women", Mary immediately replies "My soul doth magnify the Lord..." (Luke 1:42; 46). All the devotion which we offer her redounds to God's praise and glory. "

Christ never said this, Elizabeth said it there is a huge difference. Christ taught us how to pray and he never made Mary any part of his prayer.

Christ taught us how to pray 'The Our Father'. Is this the only prayer you pray? Who taught you the others?

Christ followed the Ten Commandments, which command us to "Honor your mother and father". From the cross, He entrusted His mother to the care of John

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When Jesus saw his mother 11 and the disciple there whom he loved, he said to his mother, "Woman, behold, your son."

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Then he said to the disciple, "Behold, your mother." And from that hour the disciple took her into his home.
John 19:26-27

Notice He didn't say "Please take care of my mother." Mary was not St. John's physical mother, yet the dying Lord tells him "Behold your Mother".  St. John represents all Christians here; Jesus is giving the "Woman" - the New Eve - to all Christians as their spiritual Mother.

All honor given to Mary, is given to Christ Himself. Catholics do not pray to Mary. We ask her to pray for us. As highly exalted as Mary is, she is still nothing in comparison to her Son and Creator.  When we consider Mary's greatness, we remember that God is infinitely greater, and are struck with wonder!

Mary is the Mother of Jesus, we are His brothers and sisters, so Mary is our Mother as well.  Though she did not physically give birth to us, she gave Jesus the Sacred Body of which we have become members (Ephesians 5:29).  We are all united to the very same Flesh which Jesus drew from the Virgin, so she is, in a very real sense, our Mother in the order of the Redemption.

240 posted on 01/30/2005 6:26:52 AM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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To: NYer

"Christ taught us how to pray 'The Our Father'. Is this the only prayer you pray? Who taught you the others?"

Specifically word for word NO, however there was no 'hail Mary' here it was to the FATHER. I pray to the Heavenly Father the one who create all souls and in the name of Jesus Christ. Mary is not in that line.

The rest of your post totally lost me. Christ telling John to look after his mother was a very natural thing, and it was Peter, Christ told to establish His church as the bride not brother or sister.

The bride was to be a Virgin not worshiping another god.

I guess you have to be taught this idea that Mary is our 'mother' from childhood. Eve was told she was the mother of all living, because it was through her that Christ was to come. Why do you think the serpent/devil sought to destroy her?



241 posted on 01/30/2005 6:50:47 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: NYer

Very good summary, NYer!


357 posted on 01/31/2005 7:41:20 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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