Confederate States Of America (2005)

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[lentulusgracchus]

I guess the boss didn't like his site being polluted by southern racists.

You remind me of Peter Lorre's character in Casablanca.

Or that stupid Phil Spector/gal-group classic, "My Boyfriend's Back".

"My daddy is really gonna whup you!!" -- fehhhh.

[GOPcapitalist]

Yes admin moderator - let us review what's happened here. As you are probably aware, the accuser who is present on this thread and who has now attempted to provoke your involvement here was enjoined against posting to me back in January following an incident where he engaged in several overt acts of cyberstalking and harassment in clear violation of FR policy. Several of his offending posts were removed at that time and he was warned against his illegal activity.

From then until now I have consciously avoided him on every thread where our paths cross and do not post any messages to his handle, both for my own safety given his past record of stalking and in an effort to ensure compliance with the message sent to him back in January. Nevertheless, this individual has spent the better part of the last few days attempting to bait me into a flame war with him and making direct posts to me, which he was specifically warned against doing. I have counted at least 9 such posts that are undeniably in violation of the enjoinder against him following the stalking incident, and anticipate that they will only elevate given that he is becoming more brazen in his smears and attempts to bait by the moment. While I have no intention or need to occupy any more of your time, courtesy dictated that I make mention of these circumstances given that the other poster is now attempting to draw you into his flame fit as well.

[lentulusgracchus]

Mr. 'Gopcapitalist' has stacked up enough colossal lies in here, not only concerning historical events & causes, but directed at you, myself & countless others on FR.....

Post a few. Post a lie he wrote about a historical event.

Show that some interpretation he offered about historical events was a lie, and not just a difference of opinion with you!

Please try to enumerate the "countless" others GOPcapitalist has lied about. Surely there are not numberless, pullulating throngs of posters to these ACW threads -- looking back over the last 300 posts or so, it's a pretty short list of stomachs strong enough to post in here. So the list can't be long, much less "countless". Post up, pal!

Watching him both in here and on the Texas state boards, I can certainly verify that GOPcapitalist is no shrinking violet -- do we want shrinking violets? -- when it comes to expressing his opinion on Civil War history or Texas Republican politics. His language can become rhetorical when describing the dirty politics at some recent Texas GOP conventions (unattributed charges distributed to delegates in the convention hall, that sort of thing, the kind of thing the Thurlow Weeds and Karl Roves of politics have always dealt in at arm's-length), but I haven't seen him post a witting lie yet, and that includes all of his posts in here.

So post away, Boston man, show your spleen -- but along the way, post up some real lies our man has told. I'm waiting.

[GOPcapitalist]

"lied about countless others" to them is codeword for exposing the truth about #3fan's neo-nazism, Wlat's Michael Moore marxism, and all the other direputable characters they have associated with, to say nothing of the fabricated Hamdi, Prize Cases, Bollman etc "decisions" and faked battles in the west Texas desert. They'll never specify the "countless" charges because there aren't any. It's all bravado meant to deflect from the soiled reputations each of them carries with him, and when they do speak its all in lies about those same reputations.

[M. Espinola]

Take a breathe once in a while. "You and your buddies spend more time bashing Americans and conservatives"

Sorry, hold the phone, clarification required. Recall the terminology you & your rebel comrades have repeatedly referred to yourselves as; "Southerners", "Confederates".Never once was the term 'American' utilized in place of Southerner/Confederates.

William Lloyd Garrison sends his best wishes. :) Real Americans, as well as real conservatives, do not espouse the irrational, hate enveloped dogma of 'Tommy D. & the Deceivers'. Normal citizens in this country have no desire to attempt to re-fight the Civil War, altering the defeat of the pro-slaver secessionists.

Are you starting in on President Bush again? Well, at least the current President is not your typical target for uncontrolled wrath.

Everyone knows who your normal target for abuse happens to be. The former, murdered President of the Civil War period, remember the one you always dehumanize with extreme zealotry from here to Timbuktu.

How are things at Fort Davis these days, bloody hot eh? lol

[lentulusgracchus]

....exposing the truth about #3fan's neo-nazism.....

Nolu chan was the one who retrieved the original Bertrand Comparet text #3fan was posting as his own offerings. I think I had only vaguely heard something about Comparet, long, long ago, and what a big white supremacist and neo-Nazi he was. I'm still amazed that #3fan was that brazen, to cut-and-paste that stuff verbatim on FR, and that nolu chan was resolute enough to track it down and find out where it was coming from. (BTW, is that "stalking", when you unmask a Nazi enthusiast?) I wouldn't have had the patience, nor the skill I think, to find an identical text to match up.

It also shows that #3fan was lazy -- with a little protective munging and paraphrasing, and avoiding the use of Comparet's own language, he might have got away with it.

It suddenly occurs to me to wonder -- you don't suppose #3fan really meant "Fan of the Third Reich"? Wow -- what a possibility. Did he ever explain his username?

[stand watie]

despite your coven's worship of lincoln, being killed does NOT make you a saint.

had lincoln lived out his term, he would be seen by everyone (except the MORONS & TERMINALLY DUMB, of course) to be just a CHEAP POLITICIAN & CROOKED railroad LAWYER.

a dispassionate look at the TYRANT exposes him to be NO better and NO worse than "wee willie klintoon".

EITHER/BOTH would do or say ANTHING to get more $$$$$$$$ & POLITICAL POWER! ANYTHING!

had CANNIBALISM been popular with a fraction of the public, EITHER would have mailed out millions of recipes for COOKING human flesh & "tips" on hunting people as food.

HONESTY/MORALITY was "a STRANGER" to both men.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

YEP!

free dixie,sw

[GOPcapitalist]

I don't think it's fairly called stalking if you're simply matching up a racist poster with the racist neo-nazi texts he's using. You may recall that #3nazi did attempt to cyberstalk nolu chan though, going so far as to follow him onto another forum where he was posting and make several wide speculations about his offsite identity. Given that precedent, I guess you could say that in a way another poster here picked up his stalking habits and tactics from the example of his #3ally...or should I say #3kleagle.

[lentulusgracchus]

Never once was the term 'American' utilized in place of Southerner/Confederates.

Bull. Not only do I not call myself a "Confederate", though some other guys might, I am an American in every way recognizable to the human race, and in this forum the terms of reference are regional because you and Dorkweed have decided to try to drive us off the forum on regional lines.

Real Americans, as well as real conservatives, do not espouse the irrational, hate enveloped dogma of 'Tommy D. & the Deceivers'.

Your zeal to define norms for the purpose of including us out shows your real agenda: banning what you can't handle. Real unhealthy tic, that.

And while we're at it -- prove that DiLorenzo is operating out of (your odious little phrase) "irrational, hate-enveloped dogma". You said it -- prove it!

You lay a heavy, loaded charge like that on someone, you need to start proving something. Prove it up, don't just tell me about it! Where's the hate, man? Just because this guy calls 'em like he sees 'em, and just because he disagrees with you, how does that rise to "hate"-mongering? I'm from Missouri today -- show me!

Normal citizens in this country have no desire to attempt to re-fight the Civil War, altering the defeat of the pro-slaver secessionists.

Who said they wanted to do that? You haven't been paying very close attention, have you? And there you go with that "normal" stuff again.

Are you starting in on President Bush again?

Would you like me to? Bet you would -- so you can hit "abuse" again, like you did on nolu chan, right before you did your hideous little end-zone dance over the banning of a guy who was five times the contributor to this forum that you've been.

As for Lincoln, your Rushmore hero, he put his pants on like every other American, and he can take his lumps just like Huey Long has and like Franklin Roosevelt of New York deserves to, for his waging war on the People, for whom the Southern armies were only a proxy in his war to reshape the Constitution from what the Framers set down, to what Hamilton, Jay, and Clay had wanted -- a unitary nation-state with national everything and no role for the States, much less the People.

Which is what we've got today, and about which conservatives on other threads are wearing themselves out shaping well-argued complaints.

[M. Espinola]

"Yes admin moderator - let us review what's happened here! As you are probably aware"

(Like he has nothing better to do then hang on your every word..lol)

Can everyone envision the moderator? 'It's 'GOPcapitalist'...again! Okay, drop everything! An immediate investigation is in order, Call the FBI, CIA, the President and the Washington D.C. dog catcher!' Keep the hot-line open!'

Grow up pest, this is an Internet forum for open debate, not your own private nursery school for little pencil necks.

[stand watie]

in point of fact, everyone here with "an above room temperature IQ" is laughing AT your ignorance of FACTS/REALITY & your CHILDISH demeanor.

not even the UNIONISTS on FR are "rushing to your defense". you are being RIDICULED by essentially everybody on this thread & you are seemingly too CLUELESS to know.

free dixie,sw

[lentulusgracchus]

I don't think #3fan was smart enough to be a kleagle.....maybe a klailiff. Or maybe a grand wizard, since he knew how to channel Comparet, without showing signs of having actually thought about what Comparet really said.

Anyway, no loss to humanity there -- but what do you think about his handle? You don't suppose that was a reference to the Third Reich?

[lentulusgracchus]

....this is an Internet forum for open debate....

Not when you keep making your betters disappear, Eddie.

[GOPcapitalist]

Can everyone envision the moderator? 'It's 'GOPcapitalist'...again! Okay, drop everything! An immediate investigation is in order, Call the FBI, CIA, the President and the Washington D.C. dog catcher!' Keep the hot-line open!'

...what an odd post to come from the fellow who has been pounding away at the abuse button for untold frivolous reasons for over a month (and all the while abusing the forum himself with bandwidth theft and violent threats). Of course there's also the case of his buddy who attempted to solicit admin moderator intervention at least twice directly (as well as the sidebar moderator and forum owner) and who knows how many other times behind the curtain in the last 24 hours - none of which evidently phased him or prompted him to consider that such behavior could be wasteful of the mods' time. Yet all I do is make a single post in reply, properly designating the inaccuracies in those previous complaints from his side of the fence and further documenting his little friend's persistent violations of a previous injunction against him, and somehow I'm the "bad guy" who's causing trouble and being bothersome.

These types like Espinola are so far removed from reality that it's not even worth trying to hold civilized discourse with them. In fact, if one were to try just that be it on politics, history, or even something as simple as musical tastes (espinola doesn't like people making fun of his John Tesh collection!) is impossible.

[GOPcapitalist]

Anyway, no loss to humanity there -- but what do you think about his handle? You don't suppose that was a reference to the Third Reich?

That, or possibly any number of other things. Hitler was always a fan of occultist numerology. His followers tend to be as well.

[M. Espinola]

"you and Dorkweed" 'Dorkeed', is this a form of Texas weed consuming your lawn? lolol

'Tommy D. & the Deceivers' new hit song, on sale in a few selective back-room locations: "Baby, Please Reconstruct Me, "

Everything from snowstorms to hurricanes, it's all Abe's fault!

I'm from Missouri today -- show me! What do you want to see, the next Yankees game, or are you a Mets fan?

[M. Espinola]

Hiya, John Tesh here. Thank you for your interest? ;)

[M. Espinola]

"had CANNIBALISM been popular with a fraction of the public, EITHER would have mailed out millions of recipes for COOKING human flesh & "tips" on hunting people as food."

Is there something really wrong with you?

[lentulusgracchus]

These types like Espinola are so far removed from reality that it's not even worth trying to hold civilized discourse with them.

Well, why don't we just permanently bozo-filter the three worst offenders (Espinola, capitan_refugio, and fortheDeclaration) write them off as lost causes as far as discussion, exposition, and counterargument are concerned, and go back to the original topic put up by Caipirabob, the thread host? It's still there: his post about a movie that is supposedly coming out called Confederacy 2005, which is some sort of "what-if" scenario, obviously.