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To: lentulusgracchus
Take a breathe once in a while. "You and your buddies spend more time bashing Americans and conservatives"

Sorry, hold the phone, clarification required. Recall the terminology you & your rebel comrades have repeatedly referred to yourselves as; "Southerners", "Confederates".Never once was the term 'American' utilized in place of Southerner/Confederates.

William Lloyd Garrison sends his best wishes. :) Real Americans, as well as real conservatives, do not espouse the irrational, hate enveloped dogma of 'Tommy D. & the Deceivers'. Normal citizens in this country have no desire to attempt to re-fight the Civil War, altering the defeat of the pro-slaver secessionists.

Are you starting in on President Bush again? Well, at least the current President is not your typical target for uncontrolled wrath.

Everyone knows who your normal target for abuse happens to be. The former, murdered President of the Civil War period, remember the one you always dehumanize with extreme zealotry from here to Timbuktu.

How are things at Fort Davis these days, bloody hot eh? lol

4,725 posted on 04/10/2005 11:03:59 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: M. Espinola
despite your coven's worship of lincoln, being killed does NOT make you a saint.

had lincoln lived out his term, he would be seen by everyone (except the MORONS & TERMINALLY DUMB, of course) to be just a CHEAP POLITICIAN & CROOKED railroad LAWYER.

a dispassionate look at the TYRANT exposes him to be NO better and NO worse than "wee willie klintoon".

EITHER/BOTH would do or say ANTHING to get more $$$$$$$$ & POLITICAL POWER! ANYTHING!

had CANNIBALISM been popular with a fraction of the public, EITHER would have mailed out millions of recipes for COOKING human flesh & "tips" on hunting people as food.

HONESTY/MORALITY was "a STRANGER" to both men.

free dixie,sw

4,727 posted on 04/10/2005 11:24:53 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: M. Espinola
Never once was the term 'American' utilized in place of Southerner/Confederates.

Bull. Not only do I not call myself a "Confederate", though some other guys might, I am an American in every way recognizable to the human race, and in this forum the terms of reference are regional because you and Dorkweed have decided to try to drive us off the forum on regional lines.

Real Americans, as well as real conservatives, do not espouse the irrational, hate enveloped dogma of 'Tommy D. & the Deceivers'.

Your zeal to define norms for the purpose of including us out shows your real agenda: banning what you can't handle. Real unhealthy tic, that.

And while we're at it -- prove that DiLorenzo is operating out of (your odious little phrase) "irrational, hate-enveloped dogma". You said it -- prove it!

You lay a heavy, loaded charge like that on someone, you need to start proving something. Prove it up, don't just tell me about it! Where's the hate, man? Just because this guy calls 'em like he sees 'em, and just because he disagrees with you, how does that rise to "hate"-mongering? I'm from Missouri today -- show me!

Normal citizens in this country have no desire to attempt to re-fight the Civil War, altering the defeat of the pro-slaver secessionists.

Who said they wanted to do that? You haven't been paying very close attention, have you? And there you go with that "normal" stuff again.

Are you starting in on President Bush again?

Would you like me to? Bet you would -- so you can hit "abuse" again, like you did on nolu chan, right before you did your hideous little end-zone dance over the banning of a guy who was five times the contributor to this forum that you've been.

As for Lincoln, your Rushmore hero, he put his pants on like every other American, and he can take his lumps just like Huey Long has and like Franklin Roosevelt of New York deserves to, for his waging war on the People, for whom the Southern armies were only a proxy in his war to reshape the Constitution from what the Framers set down, to what Hamilton, Jay, and Clay had wanted -- a unitary nation-state with national everything and no role for the States, much less the People.

Which is what we've got today, and about which conservatives on other threads are wearing themselves out shaping well-argued complaints.

4,730 posted on 04/10/2005 11:29:12 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: M. Espinola
Everyone knows who your normal target for abuse happens to be. The former, murdered President of the Civil War period, remember the one you always dehumanize with extreme zealotry from here to Timbuktu.

Amen!

4,939 posted on 04/13/2005 1:40:16 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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