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To: M. Espinola
Never once was the term 'American' utilized in place of Southerner/Confederates.

Bull. Not only do I not call myself a "Confederate", though some other guys might, I am an American in every way recognizable to the human race, and in this forum the terms of reference are regional because you and Dorkweed have decided to try to drive us off the forum on regional lines.

Real Americans, as well as real conservatives, do not espouse the irrational, hate enveloped dogma of 'Tommy D. & the Deceivers'.

Your zeal to define norms for the purpose of including us out shows your real agenda: banning what you can't handle. Real unhealthy tic, that.

And while we're at it -- prove that DiLorenzo is operating out of (your odious little phrase) "irrational, hate-enveloped dogma". You said it -- prove it!

You lay a heavy, loaded charge like that on someone, you need to start proving something. Prove it up, don't just tell me about it! Where's the hate, man? Just because this guy calls 'em like he sees 'em, and just because he disagrees with you, how does that rise to "hate"-mongering? I'm from Missouri today -- show me!

Normal citizens in this country have no desire to attempt to re-fight the Civil War, altering the defeat of the pro-slaver secessionists.

Who said they wanted to do that? You haven't been paying very close attention, have you? And there you go with that "normal" stuff again.

Are you starting in on President Bush again?

Would you like me to? Bet you would -- so you can hit "abuse" again, like you did on nolu chan, right before you did your hideous little end-zone dance over the banning of a guy who was five times the contributor to this forum that you've been.

As for Lincoln, your Rushmore hero, he put his pants on like every other American, and he can take his lumps just like Huey Long has and like Franklin Roosevelt of New York deserves to, for his waging war on the People, for whom the Southern armies were only a proxy in his war to reshape the Constitution from what the Framers set down, to what Hamilton, Jay, and Clay had wanted -- a unitary nation-state with national everything and no role for the States, much less the People.

Which is what we've got today, and about which conservatives on other threads are wearing themselves out shaping well-argued complaints.

4,730 posted on 04/10/2005 11:29:12 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus
"you and Dorkweed" 'Dorkeed', is this a form of Texas weed consuming your lawn? lolol

'Tommy D. & the Deceivers' new hit song, on sale in a few selective back-room locations: "Baby, Please Reconstruct Me, "

Everything from snowstorms to hurricanes, it's all Abe's fault!

I'm from Missouri today -- show me! What do you want to see, the next Yankees game, or are you a Mets fan?

4,737 posted on 04/10/2005 11:42:32 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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