Posted on 12/10/2004 9:37:54 AM PST by rogerv
Hi, gang,
I was a regular contributor to the Kerry Online Forum and am now a regular contributor to the Common Ground Common Sense forum. I am a liberal, but I'll be the first to admit, I don't have all the answers. In fact, many of hte questions that matter to me probably matter to you too. I'm concerned with questions about how to tame power, whether governmental or corporate. I'm concern with the rule of law and how we can get the powerful to take it seriously. I'm concerned with the erosion of civil liberties. And yes, I am concerned about some things you may associate with liberalism--social safety nets and taking care of those who fall through the institutional cracks.
I'm here because I think agreement is overrated and that critics can be your best friends: they keep you from getting sloppy or careless. At any rate, I think there are things I can learn from you. I don't expect you are all agreed on anything--I expect there is a lot of diversity of opinion here. If you are interested in what I have said over at Common Ground Common Sense, I'm using the same handle both places, and you should feel free to come over and look around.
Anyway, I'm new here. Anybody care to give me a tour?
Very good!
When it comes to personal beliefs and what is more personal than politics, debate is pointless. YOU have nothing to say that I haven't heard and long since stopped considering as valuable. Jim set this site up so that like minded conservatives could exchange VALUABLE INFO between each other. I cant begin to tell you the things I've learned on these threads talking with people whose opinions and knowledge I VALUE. If I want to know what someone like you thinks, which I dont, I'll stop some freshman on any college campus in the U.S. and ask them. Come back when you've grown up and have something to offer.
Boost his political career??? He just announced he's running for Gov of NY.
He's like a bull in a China shop running from industry to industry acting as if he was elected to clean up Wall Street.
He's a "white" Jesse Jackson extorting business after business.
This is very telling, you are a liberal, no offense.
If that's a common view among leftists, then I wonder why so many of them were so vehemently opposed to the removal of the evil Saddam Hussein and his henchmen from power.
See how that works? :-)
No doubt. I'll have to come back and read all these replies when I have more time. It's going to take awhile!
FWIW, this is the reason I ultimately switched from being a liberal to a conservative. Many of my previous points of view, though well intentioned, were fundamentally flawed. Critical opinions allow a person to see things from a different perspective, one not normally accessable to the viewer.
One can convince him/herself they've thoroughly considered all the angles of a subject, yet in the end still be without true knowledge because of an angle or a position they failed to recognize or consider. Regarding this forum (or any other), the finest posters are the purveyors of knowledge who can cause you to recognize the missing pieces of the puzzle without making you feel like a schmuck for missing them in the first place; they are the ones with true talent.
You'll find a lot of them here . . .
You mean as oppsed to being told to $%#% off and get back to FR when we post something on DU?
I leave with a note of caution..."Loose lips sinks ships".
He is a spy for the the DUmmies.
Bye
I'm sorry. I didn't know where would be the best place to post an introduction. I didn't want to be rude and just start posting opinions without introducing myself.
While I think governmental power needs to be tamed, corporatate power is overrated. Corporations don't have the police behind them, nor DA offices. Governments do. I can also take my business elsewhere in the case of corporations. It's harder with governments.
I'm concern with the rule of law and how we can get the powerful to take it seriously.
Agree there, but your party is the worst of all on it. Activist judges.
I'm concerned with the erosion of civil liberties.
Same here. This was my biggest problem with Bill Clinton. I oppose the patriot act that John Kerry voted for. I also strongly oppose the attacks on free speech and attacks on the 2nd amendment from government officals. John Kerry's vote to ban .30-30 ammunition(all centerfire actually) was the number one reason why I voted for Bush.
And yes, I am concerned about some things you may associate with liberalism--social safety nets and taking care of those who fall through the institutional cracks.
I don't problems with hand ups at the state and local levels(not a place for the feds). I do have a problem with handouts and a bigger problem with pyramid schemes like social security.
I don't see anyone being overly rude to the guy. He has to expect a little razing when he walks into the room.
I am an ex-lib so i have been where you are now. I also second the comments from other posters to ignore the rude and "gotcha" comments. There are plenty of thoughtful, polite, Christian posters here who represent conservative & libertarian positions.
Yes, if there's a real fire.
The problem with leftists, particularly on the gun control issue, is that they want to apply duct tape to the mouths of every theater-goer to remedy the problem of falsely shouting "fire" in a crowded auditorium
And, of course, when there's a real fire nobody can shout a warning, and more people die.
Try this statement,
Conservatives believe that man is mostly good, note all the references to creator endowing, etc, early in our history. This leads conservatives to believe that if men and women are left on their own, with little interference from government or criminals or whatever will mostly do good things and society will mostly progress in a good way. Liberals believe that man is mostly evil and that government must intervene to protect society and less fortunate from the evil that men would do given the chance.
Glad to meet you.
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