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PING!
2 posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:45 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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"According to a RoperASW poll from last year, 83 percent of Americans support mandatory detention and forfeiture of property for illegal immigrants, followed by deportation."

I'm one of the 83%.

If the President Bush or Tom Ridge would announce that in six months they will be paying a $50 per head bounty for each illegal alien on American soil there would be a mad rush for the borders.

A policeman in a car costs the average city about $200 an hour. Helicopters cost at least $2000 an hour with the ground crews. What is the full cost of a teacher per hour? $140.00 or there about.

If we could get illegal aliens to turn each other in, just the ones trying to slip through the net, (I know thousands would attempt it) we would save billions in law enforcement, welfare programs, unemployment, medical care, job training and schools the first year.

Do all this under Executive Order and tell the Courts to back off. This is national security!

Just announce that we will be dividing the country up into various sized quadrants depending on population per square mile.

Any employer who has employed an illegal alien five months from the announcement date will be fined $5000 per employee. One month later enforcement begins. This will give employers 5 months to shed the illegals and hire legally papered actual American citizens.

Then on the announced date, start in a state such as Oklahoma. Well centered, not overly populated and clean the state out. This would give Homeland, INS and Border Patrol time to install their co-agents in various court houses around the country to verify a persons paperwork, i.e.. birth certificates, hospital records, etc.

Get caught and the result would be every foreign national who is not in America legally would forfeit their belongings and be shipped out within 24 hours. These forfeited belongings would then be given to local churches for distribution to the needy. Another cost saver!

Go state to state from the epicenter sweeping out the criminals who have successfully avoided suspicion. They already had 5 months to get out, hanging around to test the system carries a SEVERE penalty. They won't be able to say they weren't warned.

This enforcement would apply to illegals from every country in the world, not just Mexico.

Imagine the number of Chinese who would be taking the ship home with everything in the house, new cars, you name it would be on those ships. The thousands of Canadians who decided the USA was better than Canada would be headed North.

How many schools could be closed? How many hospitals and state paid housing tracts? How many welfare offices?

How many state and federal employees would find out that they have the time to actually give good service to their American customers?

Oh yes, it would be an economic shocker in the amount of taxes that could be reduced or used to actually improve something needed for American citizens, instead of illegal foreigners.

Want an approximate number of the population drop? Try 50 million+ with the majority over 30 years of age, having been illegal residents of America for over ten years.

Just imagine the frantic squealing from our politicians thinking of the lost votes and contributions. That would be a sideshow worth watching!

Scan the whole page for good reading!
Conservative Debate Handbook

9 posted on 01/13/2004 6:00:39 AM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: JustPiper
Bump.

No Bush in 2004.
11 posted on 01/13/2004 6:01:57 AM PST by Marine Inspector (TANCREDO 2004)
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It's just a proposal, and he isn't proposing amnesty..

At least this way we can monitor (at least to the extent of the INS's sub-par abilities) and TAX them.

32 posted on 01/13/2004 6:18:31 AM PST by Axiom Nine (Death to all fanatics!)
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While I agree with the dictum that Impeachable offenses are whatever Congress says they are, and while I also believe that President Bush's Amnesty/"not an Amnesty" is an incredible blunder, both for party and country, Savage is being a counterproductive idiot to say that Bush should be impeached for this.

President Bush's Amnesty should be defeated the old fashioned ways:
by moral suasion and smart counter-politics..


34 posted on 01/13/2004 6:20:16 AM PST by Sabertooth (Eighteen solutions better than any Amnesty - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1053318/posts)
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To: JustPiper
What conservative would have believed in 1999 that a Republican house, a Republican Senate and a Republic President would oversee the largest expansion of the federal government since LBJ. Who could of guessed that the GOP would turn out to be bigger spenders than the Democrats? That George Bush has less respect for the law and the Constitution then Bill Clinton?

Now that Bush has busted the budget he wants to bust the borders. He also wants to spent 1 trillion dollars that we don’t have on a Mars mission. One freaking trillion dollars! Bush has lost his mind, if he ever had one. Anyone that votes for him in the next election loves their party more then their country.

140 posted on 01/13/2004 8:04:10 AM PST by jpsb (")
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"Savage is hardly alone in his strong feelings of opposition to Bush's proposal to offer legal status to illegal immigrants. A new ABC News poll finds 52 percent of the nation opposes an amnesty program for illegal immigrants from Mexico, while 57 percent oppose one for illegal immigrants from other countries. Both results are roughly the same as when the administration floated the idea two-and-a-half years ago."

A FReeper's Guide To Immigration Reform

"What remains to be seen is if this country has the capacity to accommodate, and assimilate, an unending wave of mass immigration ¯ because failure to do so will result in a balkanized, fragmented, strife-torn and dysfunctional America."

~ Take the FReeper Immigration Reform Poll ~

149 posted on 01/13/2004 8:09:10 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: JustPiper
I find it truly amazing how so many people seem to be accepting this illegal influx. Savage seems to be way ahead of the group. We are making the same mistake Europe made. We are allowing massive poor into a system that can only absorb a finite amount of charity. I don't care whether these people are hard workers or not. You can't have it where no money comes into an economy vs money just going out without changing the dynamics of the economy. The cheap labor is robbing jobs from citizens that count on that money to survive within the economy. Combine the loss of jobs for US citizens, the drain on the health system, over crowding in neighborhoods, the added load on the legal system, schools overburden plus money flowing out to Mexico is going to produce a Europe type of stagnate economy. Savage is not a racist, he is someone who has the balls to call it like it is. President Bush is pushing us to-wards the one world scenario.
261 posted on 01/13/2004 9:24:01 AM PST by jetson
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To: JustPiper
Savage is a nutcase.
600 posted on 01/13/2004 12:58:39 PM PST by holdmuhbeer
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To: JustPiper
..."Tonight Savage called Bush a liberal ".. well I disagree..Bush is a dyed in the wool NEOCON.
709 posted on 01/13/2004 2:28:51 PM PST by Zipporah (Write inTancredo in 2004)
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