[B4Ranch]

"According to a RoperASW poll from last year, 83 percent of Americans support mandatory detention and forfeiture of property for illegal immigrants, followed by deportation."

I'm one of the 83%.

If the President Bush or Tom Ridge would announce that in six months they will be paying a $50 per head bounty for each illegal alien on American soil there would be a mad rush for the borders.

A policeman in a car costs the average city about $200 an hour. Helicopters cost at least $2000 an hour with the ground crews. What is the full cost of a teacher per hour? $140.00 or there about.

If we could get illegal aliens to turn each other in, just the ones trying to slip through the net, (I know thousands would attempt it) we would save billions in law enforcement, welfare programs, unemployment, medical care, job training and schools the first year.

Do all this under Executive Order and tell the Courts to back off. This is national security!

Just announce that we will be dividing the country up into various sized quadrants depending on population per square mile.

Any employer who has employed an illegal alien five months from the announcement date will be fined $5000 per employee. One month later enforcement begins. This will give employers 5 months to shed the illegals and hire legally papered actual American citizens.

Then on the announced date, start in a state such as Oklahoma. Well centered, not overly populated and clean the state out. This would give Homeland, INS and Border Patrol time to install their co-agents in various court houses around the country to verify a persons paperwork, i.e.. birth certificates, hospital records, etc.

Get caught and the result would be every foreign national who is not in America legally would forfeit their belongings and be shipped out within 24 hours. These forfeited belongings would then be given to local churches for distribution to the needy. Another cost saver!

Go state to state from the epicenter sweeping out the criminals who have successfully avoided suspicion. They already had 5 months to get out, hanging around to test the system carries a SEVERE penalty. They won't be able to say they weren't warned.

This enforcement would apply to illegals from every country in the world, not just Mexico.

Imagine the number of Chinese who would be taking the ship home with everything in the house, new cars, you name it would be on those ships. The thousands of Canadians who decided the USA was better than Canada would be headed North.

How many schools could be closed? How many hospitals and state paid housing tracts? How many welfare offices?

How many state and federal employees would find out that they have the time to actually give good service to their American customers?

Oh yes, it would be an economic shocker in the amount of taxes that could be reduced or used to actually improve something needed for American citizens, instead of illegal foreigners.

Want an approximate number of the population drop? Try 50 million+ with the majority over 30 years of age, having been illegal residents of America for over ten years.

Just imagine the frantic squealing from our politicians thinking of the lost votes and contributions. That would be a sideshow worth watching!

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[evad]

My need to rant and rave becomes unbearable.

All I can say is...damn!

[Pan_Yans Wife]

Do all this under Executive Order and tell the Courts to back off.

How do you propose to get the strongest arm of the government to stand aside?

[looscnnn]

Won't happen. Unfortunately, Bush is to involved in getting elected to care about that. I got into my car and Hannity was on the radio and commented about the news that Bush was engrosed in the campaign for reelection, he said that is good and that Bush should be. I disagree, he should be engrosed in the job of being President and let his campaign people be engrossed in the reelection. Especially considering they don't know who is going to be the competition.

[Capt.YankeeMike]

You have just received my nomination for INS director...although you have to give me de-crim on pot use...
LOL
The Capt.

[jim35]

"According to a RoperASW poll from last year, 83 percent of Americans support mandatory detention and forfeiture of property for illegal immigrants, followed by deportation."

It's a pipe dream, it'll never happen. We don't really know that this is a cheaper idea, and from your proposals, it sounds pretty dang expensive to me, not to mention that it would take just about every LEO in the whole country to do it, not to mention about 3/4 of the military. And I guarentee you'll never get illegals to turn each other in. Also, the minute you start telling the courts to "back off," you are inviting totalitarianism into the executive branch. Wanna give that power to the next democrat POTUS?
As for fining employers for hiring illegals, that's already the law. Isn't it working great?
Now, I'm picturing these massive sweeps through our streets to root out the illegals. How're you gonna perfect that? Door to door searches? Shall we have gun-toting agents busting down doors randomly? The whole problem is, there is no easy solution to the problem of illegal aliens. Doing the same thing we're doing sure isn't working, and maybe (or maybe not) giving those who are here now some sort of legal identity will separate the wheat from the criminal chaff. I personally am against this, but not rabidly so, like many others. My problem is that these people are here ILLEGALLY, thus are breaking the law, but IMHO, I think some of these people might make better Americans than some of our own home-grown liberals.

[Finalapproach29er]

Your plan is crazy,radical, and I love it!

I don't have dreams as good as your plan. Our economy would take a hit and wage inflation would be steep, but I say lets hope someday things change.

[Leatherneck_MT]

I'm with you

[Happy2BMe]

"If the President Bush or Tom Ridge would announce that in six months they will be paying a $50 per head bounty for each illegal alien on American soil there would be a mad rush for the borders."

A FReeper's Guide To Immigration Reform

What Is Considered An Illegal Activity Under Immigration Law?

Here are some examples of the most common violations of United States Immigration laws:

Examples:

(This is not a complete list of violations.)

• filing false statements on applications or petitions
• making a false claim that you are a United States citizen
• making, altering or using counterfeit immigration documents
• making, altering or using counterfeit documents to support immigration applications or petitions
• failing to report the arrival of illegal aliens
• assisting or encouraging aliens to come to the United States in violation of the law
• harboring an illegal alien
• knowingly employing aliens who do not have permission to work in the United States
• recruiting or referring for a fee aliens who do not have permission to work in the United States
• failing to complete and maintain immigration Form I-9 for all new employees, whether citizens or aliens
• failing to depart the United States when ordered removed (deported)
• entering or attempting to enter the United States at a time or place which is not authorized
• attempting to enter the United States by misrepresenting (lying about) material facts
• entering into a marriage to circumvent the immigration laws
• entering or attempting to enter the United States without permission after having been removed (deported)
• assisting an alien to enter the United States for prostitution or other immoral purposes

[Centurion2000]

GREAT PLAN :))

[StriperSniper]

Works for me.

[tomswiftjr]

You posted this quote:
"According to a RoperASW poll from last year, 83 percent of Americans support mandatory detention and forfeiture of property for illegal immigrants, followed by deportation."

A better plan would be to forfeit the assets of the employers of illegal aliens. That would dry up the market for their services immediately. Without jobs many of them would leave without deportation.

[jeremiah]

B4Ranch for President and Dictator...........you can replace Bush the First errrrrrrrrr or is it the second?

[upcountry miss]

How many times have you posted this long long post? We get your point. In fact we got it the first time you posted it.

[JustPiper]

Bump! Ranch why are there over 500 posts just since 8AM? Scared to read the responses ;)

[GunnyB]

Your plan is a work of art! We need to - without any ambiguity - take our country back from this rabble. La Raza indeed! Your plan would be like Ross Perot's "great sucking sound" only the vacuum would be coming from the speed with which these cockroaches left. Good on ya Mate!

[billbears]

"According to a RoperASW poll from last year, 83 percent of Americans support mandatory detention and forfeiture of property for illegal immigrants, followed by deportation." I'm one of the 83%.

Watch it now, you can get called some pretty bad things for wanting to uphold the Constitution ;) BTW, I'm with you. The policies you suggested would not be hard to implement

[Zipporah]

Hey I agree.. but if the US took border security seriously, which they do not, and then prosecuted employers and cut off social services to illegals (ENFORCE THE LAW) the illegals would repatriate themselves.

[JoeSchem]

If we could get illegal aliens to turn each other in

An alternative would be to get them to turn in businesspeople who hire them. Pay them a bounty of $20,000, with the money coming from the businessperson who hired them. When it costs $20,000 a day to hire an illegal, businesspeople will stop hiring them. And if they don't get hired, the illegals will go home.

Except that we have to do something about welfare, too. Can we do something about welfare, Mr. President?

[janetgreen]

I'm one of the 83%.

I am too. Savage might be rough around the edges, but he tells the truth.

[Boot Hill]

"If the President Bush or Tom Ridge would announce that in six months they will be paying a $50 per head bounty for each illegal alien on American soil there would be a mad rush for the borders."

BUMP

--Boot Hill