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Savage: Impeach Bush over immigration plan
WND ^ | 1-12-04 | N/A

Posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:13 AM PST by JustPiper

Conservative talk-radio star, author says amnesty is betrayal of country

In the latest indication President Bush is having problems with his conservative core political constituency, Michael Savage, one of talk radio's biggest stars, tonight called for the impeachment of President Bush over his plans to legalize millions of illegal aliens.

"This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime," said Savage, whose program is heard on more than 350 stations with an audience reaching some 6 million. His book, "The Savage Nation," last year was No. 1 on the New York Times best-seller's list for five weeks. His follow-up, "The Enemy Within," out just one week, is already No. 8 on the list. Both were published by WND Books.

President Bush

Tonight Savage called Bush a liberal and described him as part of the "enemy within" that is destroying the nation.

Savage created the phrase "compassionate conservative" in 1994, a term picked up by Bush during his presidential campaign – a campaign supported by Savage.

"This is much more serious than dropping your pants for an intern," said Savage. "This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."

Savage is hardly alone in his strong feelings of opposition to Bush's proposal to offer legal status to illegal immigrants. A new ABC News poll finds 52 percent of the nation opposes an amnesty program for illegal immigrants from Mexico, while 57 percent oppose one for illegal immigrants from other countries. Both results are roughly the same as when the administration floated the idea two-and-a-half years ago.

But today in Monterrey, Mexico, Bush reaffirmed his support of the proposal, despite its unpopularity at home. He said it could help illegal immigrants "leave the shadows and have an identity."

At a joint press conference with Mexican President Vicente Fox, Bush warned that his government will not allow the existence in the United States of an underclass of illegal immigrants, but claimed again his proposal is not an amnesty. Amnesty, he said, would only promote the violation of the law and perpetuate illegal immigration.

Bush said his immigration proposal would benefit both the United States and Mexico as it recognizes the contribution of thousands of honest Mexicans who work in the United States.

For his part, Fox embraced Bush's proposal.

"What else can we wish?" Fox said at the news conference with the president.

In the U.S., the latest poll on the controversy shows at least twice as many Americans "strongly" oppose the proposal as strongly support it.

Opposition peaks in Bush's own party: Fifty-eight percent of Republicans oppose his immigration proposal for Mexicans, compared with 50 percent of Democrats. For illegal immigrants other than Mexicans, 63 percent of Republicans are opposed.

Bush reportedly will disclose more details of the plan in his State of the Union address Jan. 20.

Meanwhile, the National Border Patrol Council, which represents all 9,000 of the Border Patrol's non-supervisory agents, has told its members to challenge President Bush´s proposed guest-worker program, calling it a "slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States," the Washington Times reported today.

The agents were told in a letter from Vice President John Frecker that the proposal offered last week during a White House press conference "implies that the country really wasn't serious about" immigration enforcement in the first place.

"Hey, you know all those illegal aliens you risked 'life and limb' to apprehend? FAH-GED-ABOWD-IT," said Frecker, a veteran Border Patrol agent. "President Bush has solved the problem. Don't be confused and call this an 'amnesty,' even though those who are here illegally will suddenly become legal and will be allowed to stay here. The president assures us that it's not an amnesty," he said.

Last week Bush proposed the sweeping immigration changes that would allow the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens thought to be in the United States to remain in the country if they have a job and apply for a guest-worker card. The immigrants could stay for renewable three-year periods, after which they could apply for permanent legal residence.

Savage cited a new report published in the City Journal by the Manhattan Institute suggesting there is a major crime wave in the U.S. caused by illegal immigration.

"Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens," the report charges. "Yet in cities where the crime these aliens commit is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of members of a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should a cop arrest an illegal gang-banger for felonious reentry, it is he who will be treated as a criminal, for violating the LAPD’s rule against enforcing immigration law."

The situation is similar, the report says in New York, Chicago, San Diego, Austin and Houston. These "sanctuary policies" generally prohibit city employees, including the cops, from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities, says the report.

"These people are destroying America," said Savage. "That's all I have to say on the subject. But you can talk about it. Talk about it while you can – while America is still a free country, because it's not going to last."


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To: MEGoody
Oy vey. Savage is such an idiot.

At least he gives reasons for what he believes. I see that you are incapable of doing so.

881 posted on 01/13/2004 8:10:30 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: tkathy
He is unlistenable.

His ratings say otherwise.

882 posted on 01/13/2004 8:12:57 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: Poohbah
The statement that someone else made ages ago was

The full text of the Declaration is right there in the U.S. Code

It is there. I have showed it to you. I have posted the links. I even tried to help you by giving you the dictionary explanation of the listing.
883 posted on 01/13/2004 8:13:18 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: evad
I always considered him a part of the far right.

So now you're far right if you think America's borders should be defended.

884 posted on 01/13/2004 8:14:31 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: Happy2BMe
Thank you for the excellent links H2!!!
885 posted on 01/13/2004 8:14:43 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Also, if you search the United States Code from the House or Representatives page, you also get a copy of the Declaration in the code.

No, what you get is a link to a copy of the Declaration that they have on their server. The actual Decalration is not in the actual Code.

Start with Title 1, Section 1 and go all the way to Title 50, Subchapter 7 and find the Declaration. You won't, because it is not in the Code.

886 posted on 01/13/2004 8:15:19 PM PST by Marine Inspector (TANCREDO 2004)
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To: hedgetrimmer
I didn't see anyone citing this as law. This statement however is true, you can see it is in the US code and I have provided the link.

No it's not in the Code and all you have provided is a link to a copy they have on the site.

887 posted on 01/13/2004 8:16:23 PM PST by Marine Inspector (TANCREDO 2004)
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To: jpsb
the Mars thing is what made me sit back and take stock on his candidacy aside from this issue, then this other thing, then...
888 posted on 01/13/2004 8:16:48 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Poohbah
Game set match. Advantage Poohbah
889 posted on 01/13/2004 8:16:50 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: B4Ranch
If we could get illegal aliens to turn each other in

An alternative would be to get them to turn in businesspeople who hire them. Pay them a bounty of $20,000, with the money coming from the businessperson who hired them. When it costs $20,000 a day to hire an illegal, businesspeople will stop hiring them. And if they don't get hired, the illegals will go home.

Except that we have to do something about welfare, too. Can we do something about welfare, Mr. President?

890 posted on 01/13/2004 8:17:30 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: gunnrmike
I can appreciate that. Thank you for your service to our country Mike. But how do you feel about the takeover?
891 posted on 01/13/2004 8:18:20 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Modernman
The illegals had the busride from LA to DC this summer, financed mostly by the AFL-CIO. Border Agents stopped the bus in Texas and asked for greencards. Two Congressman told them it was racial profiling and they could just turn around and get off. How do you like that?
892 posted on 01/13/2004 8:20:29 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Poohbah
In 1878 Congress enacted a revised version of the United States Code that included a new first section entitled "The Organic Laws of the United States."

The organic laws of the United States are the country's foundational laws. The four organic laws of the United States are the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, the Constitution, and the Northwest Ordinance of 1787.
893 posted on 01/13/2004 8:22:28 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: VU4G10
More hypocritic news:

MONTERREY, Mexico (AP) President Bush, seeking to mend relations, says Canada will be eligible to bid on second round of Iraq reconstruction contracts
894 posted on 01/13/2004 8:27:25 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Marine Inspector
The Organic Laws are based on the 2000 edition (January 2, 2001) of the Code.
895 posted on 01/13/2004 8:28:49 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: ZULU
Bush and Congress should be deluged with letters and petitions. I will be posting mine at petitiononline this week. There is a petition up there already, but I think mine is worded better, shorter, and more specific. Sign the other one now too, and sign mine later.

Unless the American people rise up in outrage over this proposal we only have ourselves to blame for the politicians complacent and smug attitude on this subject. Write Bush, write your representatives. E-Mailing and phone calls are not as effective as writing a letter - its a more "in your face statement." But backing it up with e-mails and phone calls is good.


Many of us have done that for a lonnnnnnng time, has not worked. Then last month Ridge comes out and says I do not care how many of you complain etc this WILL happen and guess what Zulu he was right

So yes the desperate measure a few weeks ago with the grassroots campain of writing in Tancredo and now changing parties
896 posted on 01/13/2004 8:30:45 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: kevao
Do you agree with EVERYTHING Dubya has ever done or proposed, or are you a DNC-er like us?

Of course not, but unlike you, I am not a one issue Republican and I am most definitely a DNC-er like you have admited you are.

897 posted on 01/13/2004 8:32:15 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: JustPiper
Okay people argue if you will but you need to take a look at this list of jobs/companies that have left America. I'm curious to know how many of these companies Bush/Cheney and yes other politicians are connected with. How many of these companies are under investigation? They abandoned America, but no let's not abandon our President. Our country is turning to crap. But of course we must still vote for Bush.

Justpiper,

Respectively, you are coming off as an uninformed lib with that view. Governor Blago raised the fees for the trucking industry in Illinois as an example and Star Trucking announced they would leave the state because they could not compete with other trucking industries from other states with the higher fees in place. Every Dem in Illinois uses your same argument and points fingers at Star Trucking rather than at the governor for that move. Another example, Caterpillar has been creating new plants in Georgia rather than Illinois because Illinois is not a 'right to work' state which causes union problems with new hires.

This goes for international business too. When our American corporations are competing against foreign business, high fees and liberal laws prevent some of these companies from being competitive with imports (Walmart stock is a perfect example of that competition). Americans want it all - cheap products and great wages. However, that is an economic idea that only exists in in certain areas of commerce. We have to give in one way or another. NAFTA allows these companies to use foreign work at a lower wage to create competitive prices against nations that use slave labor. It is a loss of jobs but this allows profit to be used for other jobs such as research, development, and infrastructure, for example.

Please reconsider your thinking on this subject matter.

899 posted on 01/13/2004 8:32:31 PM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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To: JustPiper
I stayed.

Time heals all (well, most all).

U R Very Welcome!

900 posted on 01/13/2004 8:32:45 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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