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Posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:13 AM PST by JustPiper
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To: Dane
You are parroting what was said 100 years ago. Were still here, stronger than ever.100 years ago there wasn't a foreign king actually negociating the sending of his country's citizens and dictating to the USA which laws we had to change.
Why is Bush meeting with Fox negociating how many people that country will send us? That isn't the typical way immigration has ever been done --- except when Castro sent a boatload back in the Carter days.
781
posted on
01/13/2004 4:08:05 PM PST
by
FITZ
To: hedgetrimmer
And your point is? Assuming that you are arguing that The Declaration of Independence has to be recognized as law because it has been cited in the US Code, the Gutenberg Bible must also be recognized as law since it is cited in Title 2 Chapter 5.
782
posted on
01/13/2004 4:09:52 PM PST
by
m1-lightning
(Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
To: FITZ
100 years ago there wasn't a foreign king actually negociating the sending of his country's citizens and dictating to the USA which laws we had to change When did Mexico get a King? I thought they threw out Maximillian in the 1860's? And what "dictating". There is a problem that has been ignored for many years and someone is proposing a solution and that solution is to document these people and get them above ground.
But you go right ahead with your hyperbole.
783
posted on
01/13/2004 4:11:36 PM PST
by
Dane
To: Sabertooth
"Savage is being a counterproductive idiot to say that Bush should be impeached for this. President Bush's Amnesty should be defeated the old fashioned ways:
by moral suasion and smart counter-politics.."
And conservatives are going to accomplish this in the ten months prior to the '04 election?
It's become quite clear that EVERYTHING this administration does is calculated to maximize their own power -- and become ALL things to ALL people...
BTW, how'd you like Dubya's pulling off of his own version of 'Wag-the Dog' by announcing his new Martian Space Program in the middle of this legal/illegal immigration conundrum?
To: Dane
I keep asking who "their" candidate is. Nobody will tell me. I guess it's a big secret.
785
posted on
01/13/2004 4:13:16 PM PST
by
Howlin
To: F16Fighter
It's become quite clear that EVERYTHING this administration does is calculated to maximize their own power Wow, how are things going over at the DNC, Terry? Must be a pretty bad day for you.
786
posted on
01/13/2004 4:14:19 PM PST
by
Dane
To: Dane
Coming up....Pat Bucannan on Michael Savage.
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Just for you Dean, er I mean Dane.
787
posted on
01/13/2004 4:17:20 PM PST
by
riri
To: Howlin
I keep asking who "their" candidate is. Nobody will tell me. I guess it's a big secret. Well it seems their candidate du jour is Tancredo. Yesterdays were Paul, Browne, Buchanan, the CP guy.
Their "chosen" candidates are like the weather, wait another day and it will change.
788
posted on
01/13/2004 4:17:38 PM PST
by
Dane
To: m1-lightning; exmarine
The Declaration of Independence is a set of principles upon which our government was established. That is, it is a basis or foundation for our governnment. The government had to be declared independent to Britain and be held to certain ideals before one word of law or statute was ever written therefore it is a primal document for the establishment of our free government.
Arguing that the Declaration is just an historical document and has no meaning today because it isn't enshrined in the United States Code is specious. It is an integral part of the American philosophy of liberty and individual rights.
To: Dane
There is a problem that has been ignored for many years and someone is proposing a solution and that solution is to document these people and get them above ground. And what happens to those who decide to skip the blue card process just as they skipped the green card process, say for example they don't wish to give their name and address and be told they go back in 3 years? And their illegal employer doesn't choose to pay minimum wage or any benefits? There seems to be no plan in place for that --- so illegal immigration will continue. This isn't about getting a solution, it's about Fox demanding our immigration laws be changed. We're obviously not discussing bringing in a variety of immigrants ---- no hard-working Hatians, no hard-working Romanians, no hard-working Malaysians in this plan being discussed in Monterrey. When in the past did a foreign leader become so involved in this issue? Castro only sent one boat load and we found that unacceptable.
790
posted on
01/13/2004 4:19:37 PM PST
by
FITZ
To: Dane
Tancredo? But I thought that they wanted a man of his word. Didn't he swear he'd term limit himself?
*Puzzling*
791
posted on
01/13/2004 4:19:55 PM PST
by
Howlin
To: riri
Coming up....Pat Bucannan on Michael Savage Sheesh big deal, two guys from the same frat(ABM, A Bunch of Malcontents) having a raw meat dinner and then backslapping themselves as they head for the beer bong.
BFD.
792
posted on
01/13/2004 4:20:34 PM PST
by
Dane
To: FITZ
And your solution is?
793
posted on
01/13/2004 4:21:39 PM PST
by
Dane
To: MissAmericanPie
"But given the actions of the republican congress, senate, and president, I'm not sure the nation can withstand four more years of their liberalism. They have certainly made it crystal clear that none of them hold to a smidgen of conservative principle, which begs the question. Isn't advertising onself as "The Party of Principle" false advertising?=o)"Like always, MAP, you are telling it like it is.
I'm just amazed at the number of Freepers yawning over Dubya's failure to enforce American sovereignty, and refusal to admit there are maggots in our 'Chef's Special.'
To: F16Fighter
>>how'd you like Dubya's pulling off of his own version of 'Wag-the Dog' by announcing his new Martian Space Program
Some wag said that it was an attempt to find the WMD!
To: Howlin
Tancredo? But I thought that they wanted a man of his word. Didn't he swear he'd term limit himself? Shhhh, they don't like that fact that Tancredo is a fallible human being, afterall he is the second coming du jour.
796
posted on
01/13/2004 4:24:31 PM PST
by
Dane
To: Dane
Treat illegal employment like they treat tax evasion or OSHA violations. Make it unprofitable so that honest businessmen who follow the law might have a chance to stay in business. As it is now the corrupt who recruit in Mexico have a distinct advantage --- they can pay dirt wages, have taxpayers subsidize their labor costs so they can make a high profit AND put the honest guy out of business.
797
posted on
01/13/2004 4:25:16 PM PST
by
FITZ
To: Dane
"Wow, how are things going over at the DNC, Terry? Must be a pretty bad day for you."OUCH!
BTW Dane - be very careful when you bend over for the soap in the Team GOP shower stall...
To: MEGoody
Oy vey. Savage is such an idiot. Yet this post on Savage has 798 responses, and counting.
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posted on
01/13/2004 4:27:36 PM PST
by
arm958
To: AbsoluteJustice
You GET IT! Unlike so many that listen but don't seem to 'hear', you understand the drift of what Savage is saying. I love Savage too!. Sean H. is a good guy, but too much of a cheerleader. Savage cuts. And, it hurts at times. But, he make me think.
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