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Savage: Impeach Bush over immigration plan
WND ^ | 1-12-04 | N/A

Posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:13 AM PST by JustPiper

Conservative talk-radio star, author says amnesty is betrayal of country

In the latest indication President Bush is having problems with his conservative core political constituency, Michael Savage, one of talk radio's biggest stars, tonight called for the impeachment of President Bush over his plans to legalize millions of illegal aliens.

"This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime," said Savage, whose program is heard on more than 350 stations with an audience reaching some 6 million. His book, "The Savage Nation," last year was No. 1 on the New York Times best-seller's list for five weeks. His follow-up, "The Enemy Within," out just one week, is already No. 8 on the list. Both were published by WND Books.

President Bush

Tonight Savage called Bush a liberal and described him as part of the "enemy within" that is destroying the nation.

Savage created the phrase "compassionate conservative" in 1994, a term picked up by Bush during his presidential campaign – a campaign supported by Savage.

"This is much more serious than dropping your pants for an intern," said Savage. "This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."

Savage is hardly alone in his strong feelings of opposition to Bush's proposal to offer legal status to illegal immigrants. A new ABC News poll finds 52 percent of the nation opposes an amnesty program for illegal immigrants from Mexico, while 57 percent oppose one for illegal immigrants from other countries. Both results are roughly the same as when the administration floated the idea two-and-a-half years ago.

But today in Monterrey, Mexico, Bush reaffirmed his support of the proposal, despite its unpopularity at home. He said it could help illegal immigrants "leave the shadows and have an identity."

At a joint press conference with Mexican President Vicente Fox, Bush warned that his government will not allow the existence in the United States of an underclass of illegal immigrants, but claimed again his proposal is not an amnesty. Amnesty, he said, would only promote the violation of the law and perpetuate illegal immigration.

Bush said his immigration proposal would benefit both the United States and Mexico as it recognizes the contribution of thousands of honest Mexicans who work in the United States.

For his part, Fox embraced Bush's proposal.

"What else can we wish?" Fox said at the news conference with the president.

In the U.S., the latest poll on the controversy shows at least twice as many Americans "strongly" oppose the proposal as strongly support it.

Opposition peaks in Bush's own party: Fifty-eight percent of Republicans oppose his immigration proposal for Mexicans, compared with 50 percent of Democrats. For illegal immigrants other than Mexicans, 63 percent of Republicans are opposed.

Bush reportedly will disclose more details of the plan in his State of the Union address Jan. 20.

Meanwhile, the National Border Patrol Council, which represents all 9,000 of the Border Patrol's non-supervisory agents, has told its members to challenge President Bush´s proposed guest-worker program, calling it a "slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States," the Washington Times reported today.

The agents were told in a letter from Vice President John Frecker that the proposal offered last week during a White House press conference "implies that the country really wasn't serious about" immigration enforcement in the first place.

"Hey, you know all those illegal aliens you risked 'life and limb' to apprehend? FAH-GED-ABOWD-IT," said Frecker, a veteran Border Patrol agent. "President Bush has solved the problem. Don't be confused and call this an 'amnesty,' even though those who are here illegally will suddenly become legal and will be allowed to stay here. The president assures us that it's not an amnesty," he said.

Last week Bush proposed the sweeping immigration changes that would allow the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens thought to be in the United States to remain in the country if they have a job and apply for a guest-worker card. The immigrants could stay for renewable three-year periods, after which they could apply for permanent legal residence.

Savage cited a new report published in the City Journal by the Manhattan Institute suggesting there is a major crime wave in the U.S. caused by illegal immigration.

"Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens," the report charges. "Yet in cities where the crime these aliens commit is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of members of a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should a cop arrest an illegal gang-banger for felonious reentry, it is he who will be treated as a criminal, for violating the LAPD’s rule against enforcing immigration law."

The situation is similar, the report says in New York, Chicago, San Diego, Austin and Houston. These "sanctuary policies" generally prohibit city employees, including the cops, from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities, says the report.

"These people are destroying America," said Savage. "That's all I have to say on the subject. But you can talk about it. Talk about it while you can – while America is still a free country, because it's not going to last."


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To: Dane
You are parroting what was said 100 years ago. Were still here, stronger than ever.

100 years ago there wasn't a foreign king actually negociating the sending of his country's citizens and dictating to the USA which laws we had to change.

Why is Bush meeting with Fox negociating how many people that country will send us? That isn't the typical way immigration has ever been done --- except when Castro sent a boatload back in the Carter days.

781 posted on 01/13/2004 4:08:05 PM PST by FITZ
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To: hedgetrimmer
And your point is? Assuming that you are arguing that The Declaration of Independence has to be recognized as law because it has been cited in the US Code, the Gutenberg Bible must also be recognized as law since it is cited in Title 2 Chapter 5.
782 posted on 01/13/2004 4:09:52 PM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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To: FITZ
100 years ago there wasn't a foreign king actually negociating the sending of his country's citizens and dictating to the USA which laws we had to change

When did Mexico get a King? I thought they threw out Maximillian in the 1860's? And what "dictating". There is a problem that has been ignored for many years and someone is proposing a solution and that solution is to document these people and get them above ground.

But you go right ahead with your hyperbole.

783 posted on 01/13/2004 4:11:36 PM PST by Dane
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To: Sabertooth
"Savage is being a counterproductive idiot to say that Bush should be impeached for this.

President Bush's Amnesty should be defeated the old fashioned ways:

by moral suasion and smart counter-politics.."

And conservatives are going to accomplish this in the ten months prior to the '04 election?

It's become quite clear that EVERYTHING this administration does is calculated to maximize their own power -- and become ALL things to ALL people...

BTW, how'd you like Dubya's pulling off of his own version of 'Wag-the Dog' by announcing his new Martian Space Program in the middle of this legal/illegal immigration conundrum?

784 posted on 01/13/2004 4:12:13 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Dane
I keep asking who "their" candidate is. Nobody will tell me. I guess it's a big secret.
785 posted on 01/13/2004 4:13:16 PM PST by Howlin
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To: F16Fighter
It's become quite clear that EVERYTHING this administration does is calculated to maximize their own power

Wow, how are things going over at the DNC, Terry? Must be a pretty bad day for you.

786 posted on 01/13/2004 4:14:19 PM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
Coming up....Pat Bucannan on Michael Savage.

Go Pat Go!

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Just for you Dean, er I mean Dane.

787 posted on 01/13/2004 4:17:20 PM PST by riri
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To: Howlin
I keep asking who "their" candidate is. Nobody will tell me. I guess it's a big secret.

Well it seems their candidate du jour is Tancredo. Yesterdays were Paul, Browne, Buchanan, the CP guy.

Their "chosen" candidates are like the weather, wait another day and it will change.

788 posted on 01/13/2004 4:17:38 PM PST by Dane
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To: m1-lightning; exmarine
The Declaration of Independence is a set of principles upon which our government was established. That is, it is a basis or foundation for our governnment. The government had to be declared independent to Britain and be held to certain ideals before one word of law or statute was ever written therefore it is a primal document for the establishment of our free government.

Arguing that the Declaration is just an historical document and has no meaning today because it isn't enshrined in the United States Code is specious. It is an integral part of the American philosophy of liberty and individual rights.
789 posted on 01/13/2004 4:19:31 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Dane
There is a problem that has been ignored for many years and someone is proposing a solution and that solution is to document these people and get them above ground.

And what happens to those who decide to skip the blue card process just as they skipped the green card process, say for example they don't wish to give their name and address and be told they go back in 3 years? And their illegal employer doesn't choose to pay minimum wage or any benefits? There seems to be no plan in place for that --- so illegal immigration will continue. This isn't about getting a solution, it's about Fox demanding our immigration laws be changed. We're obviously not discussing bringing in a variety of immigrants ---- no hard-working Hatians, no hard-working Romanians, no hard-working Malaysians in this plan being discussed in Monterrey. When in the past did a foreign leader become so involved in this issue? Castro only sent one boat load and we found that unacceptable.

790 posted on 01/13/2004 4:19:37 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Dane
Tancredo? But I thought that they wanted a man of his word. Didn't he swear he'd term limit himself?

*Puzzling*
791 posted on 01/13/2004 4:19:55 PM PST by Howlin
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To: riri
Coming up....Pat Bucannan on Michael Savage

Sheesh big deal, two guys from the same frat(ABM, A Bunch of Malcontents) having a raw meat dinner and then backslapping themselves as they head for the beer bong.

BFD.

792 posted on 01/13/2004 4:20:34 PM PST by Dane
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To: FITZ
And your solution is?
793 posted on 01/13/2004 4:21:39 PM PST by Dane
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To: MissAmericanPie
"But given the actions of the republican congress, senate, and president, I'm not sure the nation can withstand four more years of their liberalism. They have certainly made it crystal clear that none of them hold to a smidgen of conservative principle, which begs the question. Isn't advertising onself as "The Party of Principle" false advertising?=o)"

Like always, MAP, you are telling it like it is.

I'm just amazed at the number of Freepers yawning over Dubya's failure to enforce American sovereignty, and refusal to admit there are maggots in our 'Chef's Special.'

794 posted on 01/13/2004 4:23:16 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
>>how'd you like Dubya's pulling off of his own version of 'Wag-the Dog' by announcing his new Martian Space Program

Some wag said that it was an attempt to find the WMD!
795 posted on 01/13/2004 4:23:59 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Howlin
Tancredo? But I thought that they wanted a man of his word. Didn't he swear he'd term limit himself?

Shhhh, they don't like that fact that Tancredo is a fallible human being, afterall he is the second coming du jour.

796 posted on 01/13/2004 4:24:31 PM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
Treat illegal employment like they treat tax evasion or OSHA violations. Make it unprofitable so that honest businessmen who follow the law might have a chance to stay in business. As it is now the corrupt who recruit in Mexico have a distinct advantage --- they can pay dirt wages, have taxpayers subsidize their labor costs so they can make a high profit AND put the honest guy out of business.
797 posted on 01/13/2004 4:25:16 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Dane
"Wow, how are things going over at the DNC, Terry? Must be a pretty bad day for you."

OUCH!

BTW Dane - be very careful when you bend over for the soap in the Team GOP shower stall...

798 posted on 01/13/2004 4:25:57 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: MEGoody
Oy vey. Savage is such an idiot.

Yet this post on Savage has 798 responses, and counting.

799 posted on 01/13/2004 4:27:36 PM PST by arm958
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To: AbsoluteJustice
You GET IT! Unlike so many that listen but don't seem to 'hear', you understand the drift of what Savage is saying. I love Savage too!. Sean H. is a good guy, but too much of a cheerleader. Savage cuts. And, it hurts at times. But, he make me think.
800 posted on 01/13/2004 4:27:43 PM PST by vortigern
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