Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

FR Homeschoolers 12/4/2002
FR Homeschoolers | 12/4/2002 | TxKid

Posted on 12/04/2002 7:19:36 AM PST by TxKid

This is our own corner of Free Republic where homeschoolers can discuss what curriculum we use, vent when needed, share our successes, compare notes, alert each other to things we find on the internet, and vent some more.

Homeschool Forum Thread #1
Homeschool Forum Thread #2

Free Republic links to education related articles (thread#8)


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Chit/Chat; Education; History; Humor; Miscellaneous; Reference; Society
KEYWORDS: children; curriculum; education; families; forum; home; homeeducation; homeschool; homeschoolforum; homeschooling; homeschoollist; jurisdiction; parents; patriarchy; school; stewardship; teaching
An insult to both Tolkien and America.


Source


Additional Titles

THOSE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS

Lynn M. Stuter December 3, 2002 NewsWithViews.com

Continually, in the context of the transformation of education to systems
education, I hear government officials and public employees refer to children as "our children" or "the state's children", ie, Washington's children.

Is this just a slip of the lip, or ... ?

 
The last I knew, my children's birth certificates didn't show the state of Washington as their parents.  So how is it that the State of Washington refers to my children as theirs?
 
Has the state fed my children ... clothed my children ... provided a roof over their head ... loved them ... provided for them?  To each and all, the answer is "no".  So how can the state claim my children as theirs?
 
How many times have parents, asking hard questions about education reform, been told that the process had "community representation" or "the input of the people"?  Oh, so I'm not part of the community, and I'm not a person? And considering I'm forced to pay taxes to support the government school, I shouldn't have the right to voice my concerns about the manner in which the school is being run, what is being taught, and how it is being taught, how my tax dollars are being spent?  And, to boot, I don't remember giving anyone the right to represent me.
 
So, please explain to me how it can be said that the process had community representation or the input of the people.  It has had neither. It can't be called community representation when the people sitting at the table were selected, no elected, and were selected based on whether they agreed with education reform.  And it can't be said the people had input when they are facilitated to a predetermined outcome.
 
Oh dear, those unanswered ... or is it unanswerable ... questions!
 
When it comes to my child, it is what I think and what I want that counts. I didn't sign over my rights, either as an individual or a parent, to the state when my child entered the government school.  I do not consider the state my master.  As established by the Constitution, the state is my servant.
 
Now, if the government wants to run a school to promote its agenda and causes, then it is those who choose to send their child/ren to that government school who should pay for it.  It is a violation of the U.S. Constitution to force people to pay taxes to support a worldview that violates their freedom of conscience—their right not to have to pay for or promote a worldview they do not approve of or agree with.
 
Oops, doesn't that mean government schools promoting the humanist religion are unconstitutional?
 
So, how is it that the state refers to my child as theirs?  Because, under the paradigm shift from the Christian worldview to the humanist worldview, my child is considered to be not more than someone to do the bidding of the state; not an individual with free will, but "human capital" or a "human resource" no better than a cow in the pasture or a machine in the field, there to be taken care of in the interests of providing for the master.
 
What a chilling thought that so many do not realize, don't want to realize, the position this humanist worldview places them in.  What a chilling thought that people are so willing to be ousted from their God-given position as the highest form of life on Earth, to a position in which they are of no more worth than a cow or a piece of machinery.  What a chilling thought that people are willing to replace God as the ultimate authority with the state as the ultimate authority.  How chilling that people call themselves Christians but teach humanism in the public schools, use it in the public sector, write it into the laws that are written and passed, both state and federal, and use it in boardrooms and businesses nation-wide. 

As for me, I'm neither a "human resource" nor "human capital".  Nor do I consider it my mission on Earth to provide for some self-proclaimed master under the feudal system of the Dark Ages.  Amazing how mankind regresses in the name of progress.

 
There is only one way to know freedom, to live free, and that is to know God—No God, No Freedom, Know God, Know Freedom!

© 2002 Lynn M. Stuter - All Rights Reserved

 


 

Mother and wife, Stuter has spent the past ten years researching systems theory with a particular emphasis on education.  Home schooled two daughters, now grown and on their own.  Have worked with legislators, both state and federal, on issues pertaining to systems governance and education reform. Network nation-wide with other researchers and citizens concerned with the transformation of our nation.  Have traveled the United States and lived overseas.  Web site: http://www.icehouse.net/lmstuter   E-Mail: 

lmstuter@mail.icehouse.net


1 posted on 12/04/2002 7:19:37 AM PST by TxKid
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: *Homeschool_list; 2Jedismom; homeschool mama; BallandPowder; ffrancone; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; ...
Ping!

2 posted on 12/04/2002 7:23:44 AM PST by TxKid
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TxKid
It appears that being a fruitcake does not hinder ones acting abilities. LOL!
3 posted on 12/04/2002 8:42:09 AM PST by RAT Patrol
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RAT Patrol
LOL... I didn't know who you were talking about, at first... Now, I see. How disappointing! Strider was always my favorite character. Now, I won't be able to enjoy the second movie without thinking about that actor's comments.

This moron should be shown the videotape of the woman the Taliban executed in the stadium. He should see them force the woman to her knees, where she begged for mercy. He should see what the crowd of cheering Moslems saw. The pistol put to the back of her head. He should hear the report as the trigger was pulled and the bullet blew her brains out.

Her crime, by the way, was infidelity.

And this moron says we were the side representing Sauron in that land.

That part says it all right there.

4 posted on 12/04/2002 8:51:03 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Tired of Taxes; RAT Patrol
Your posts on this thread have nothing to do with homeschooling. Did a morphing thing happen on FR and your posts were meant for another thread?
5 posted on 12/04/2002 8:54:31 AM PST by homeschool mama
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: homeschool mama
The link at the top of the Homeschoolers' Forum today is to an article entitled: "An Insult to both Tolkien and America". That's why we're commenting on it here.
6 posted on 12/04/2002 8:58:26 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: All
CA: Massive School Overhaul:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/800578/posts
7 posted on 12/04/2002 9:16:29 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Tired of Taxes; RAT Patrol; homeschool mama
My kiddo posted that. At first, I wondered what ya meant by "fruitcake" too. LOL.

He's all engrossed in reading LOTR right now..

8 posted on 12/04/2002 9:40:45 AM PST by TxBec
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

Seen this???
9 posted on 12/04/2002 9:42:42 AM PST by TxBec
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: All
Chimp math
10 posted on 12/04/2002 9:45:17 AM PST by TxBec
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: homeschool mama
We are commenting on the story linked above. Inasmuch as reading has everything to do with homeschooling, I think stories pertaining to The Lord of the Rings--a favorite at my house--have plenty to do with homeschooling. My kid is an avid reader anyway.
11 posted on 12/04/2002 10:51:36 AM PST by RAT Patrol
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: TxBec
LOTR is such a great trilogy.
12 posted on 12/04/2002 10:54:25 AM PST by RAT Patrol
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: RAT Patrol
I didn't see the link until it was pointed out to me. Being a homeschooler I am well aware of the benefit of reading and the added benefit of the 'Rings'.
13 posted on 12/04/2002 12:24:56 PM PST by homeschool mama
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: homeschool mama
Don't take it condescendingly. I didn't mean it that way. I was just trying to answer your question.
14 posted on 12/04/2002 1:03:16 PM PST by RAT Patrol
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: TxKid
Am
15 posted on 12/04/2002 1:50:08 PM PST by JennieOsborne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RAT Patrol
Thank you for clarifying that. :o)
16 posted on 12/04/2002 7:51:53 PM PST by homeschool mama
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson