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AMERICA - The Right Way!! (Day 655) [Remember the Trade Center!!]
Various News Sources and FReepers | November 6, 2002 | All of Us

Posted on 11/06/2002 4:31:08 AM PST by Chairman_December_19th_Society

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To: nicollo
More on the VA sales tax/ "transportation" initiative... I hear now that the Governor ("Slick2" - that's a great one, Mr. Chairman!) is absolving himself of responsibility. Maybe he'll get away with it, but I'm not sure. Either way, it's horrid leadership.

By contrast, check out what Jeb's facing in FLA:

Education gets a boost: Class caps, pre-K win

...Bush had urged voters to reject the class-size initiative, Amendment 9, warning that its passage would force him to make either one of two unappetizing choices: endorse billions of dollars of higher taxes or support deep budget cuts. Voters also overwhelmingly passed another education measure opposed by the governor -- Amendment 11, which will create a board of governors to oversee Florida's 11 public universities. A third education measure, Amendment 8, which will make prekindergarten available to all 4-year-olds throughout Florida for no cost, easily won passage. Bush supported that initiative, which was championed by Miami-Dade Mayor Alex Penelas.
Unlike Slick2 in VA, Bush was upfront and clear about all this in advance, outlining the pros/cons and consequences of each.

Ironically, South FLA voted itself a 1/2-a-penny hike for mass transit. They need it, but they don't need a higher sales tax. Oh well. At least down there the developers have already been smited. The Governor had nothing to do with it. (story here: Voters back tax for transit)

I don't much like referendums. They've done some good things, such as we saw yesterday in CA and AZ rejecting bi-lingal education. On the whole, they are an escape clause for politicians to avoid responsibility, just as Slick2 is doing in VA. Politicians use public referendums to dump bills and moves they don't want to be held responsible for, or that they want to get rid of for political cover.

The idea of the referendum/initiative is a circular argument. The voters must act because their representatives whom they've elected won't... Uh huh. They have weakened representative government, and loosened democracy by making it arbitrary and susceptible to political sway and minority and factional influence.

281 posted on 11/06/2002 12:11:09 PM PST by nicollo
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To: Dog; generalissimoduane
Population data link to support #277:

http://www.mc-mncppc.org/research/data_library/population/po21a.shtm

282 posted on 11/06/2002 12:13:01 PM PST by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
On that link in your post 277...look at what someone researched....

Here is the link to the 2002 general election voter registration.

Says 6990 registered, 505 GOP, 5556 DEM, than other

283 posted on 11/06/2002 12:17:42 PM PST by Dog
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
Chair mail.....

And it seems the FR researchers are out in force over SD...:-)

284 posted on 11/06/2002 12:21:29 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
And we already know from Sioux Falls newspaper articles of efforts to fraudulantly manipulate voter registrations on Indian Reservations - the Sioux Nation was specifically mentioned, but the Cheyennes, why wouldn't they be probable targets also?

Seems the demoflops intended to use the fraudulant voter rolls so long as they were not purged by Election Day - and since they were only discovered last week, there wasn't enough time.

Now we need to make sure it doesn't stick!

285 posted on 11/06/2002 12:21:40 PM PST by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: Dog
Harold Ford making it clear on Fox that if Gephardt runs for minority leader, he WILL be challenged.

I think Harold Ford is dangerous. He is able to sound reasonable and middle-of-the-road when he wants to get something, but he is a leftist, big-time!

286 posted on 11/06/2002 12:22:54 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
I think Harold Ford is dangerous. He is able to sound reasonable and middle-of-the-road when he wants to get something, but he is a leftist, big-time!

Gebhardt is darn dangerous too! I think this is part of the internal finger-pointing of the demoflops.

287 posted on 11/06/2002 12:26:43 PM PST by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
By the way, I just got a call from the RNC, telling me they were NOT asking for money, but just wanted to thank me for my past donations and wish me Happy Thanksgiving!

I am telling you, we have classy people in charge!

288 posted on 11/06/2002 12:34:41 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Molly Pitcher; Guenevere; *ATRW
Hi, friends! Just wanted to drop by and let ya all know I am still kicking around in fine form. And for the first time, I am FReeping at work [!] but I wouldn't say it will be an everyday occurance.

And also: YEE-HAH, the democrats are out of power! Rush said don't gloat but it feels so damn good! I attribute it to the button I made and wore yesterday that said: "DASCHLE FOR MINORITY LEADER" and whattayaknow if it didn't work!

Anyhoo, hope everybody is safe and sound, the place I was using to access FR was a state [democrat-controlled] office and when they saw what I was doing [trashing democrats] they said "No more for you!" Talk about mean-spirited liberals, eh? I shall return when I can, everybody take care and savor our victory!
289 posted on 11/06/2002 12:40:04 PM PST by W.
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To: W.
trashing democrats

I see that Corporal Cue Ball did a wonderful job of putting his trash where it belonged last night while he was on CNN!

290 posted on 11/06/2002 12:52:05 PM PST by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: Miss Marple
The RAT purge has begun. MacAuliffe should be gone by the end of the week(I think he's out by tomorrow night), which is really a shame since he's so incompetent. Gephardt will be out as minority leader in January, and Lil' Tommy is going to be challenged for Senate leadership. But this is merely rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. As long as x42 and 97 are calling the shots, the RATS will continue to founder.
291 posted on 11/06/2002 1:07:59 PM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore)
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To: MozartLover; Bitwhacker; Neets
How is this for class...

Philadelphia Eagles seek ticket donations from fans to salute the military this weekend..

292 posted on 11/06/2002 1:08:11 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
Real class, Dog! Good for them!
293 posted on 11/06/2002 1:15:59 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: W.; Chairman_December_19th_Society; Miss Marple; *ATRW
I shall return when I can, everybody take care and savor our victory!

Aye, aye, SIR!!!

LOL! on the button!!

We did note an element of despair in the Corrupt Party's tone the past few days, & was that ever TRUE!!

I can EVEN stand to watch Judy W on CNN this afternoon!!

Dog - Thanks for the Thune info....let's remain hopeful!!

294 posted on 11/06/2002 1:27:58 PM PST by Molly Pitcher
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
Thanks Chair.
295 posted on 11/06/2002 1:30:18 PM PST by lysie
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To: lysie; All
We are farmers, ranchers, loggers, miners, harvesters, hunters, fishermen, trappers, landowners, recreationists. teachers, nurses, homemakers, citizens. We are the true conservatives.

Counties won
Gore 677
Bush 2,434

Sq Miles
Gore 580,134
Bush 2,427,039

Population
Gore 127 Million
Bush 143 Million

We are America!


296 posted on 11/06/2002 1:43:16 PM PST by lodwick
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To: lodwick
Bush taking the Majority out for a spin this afternoon!

CAVUTO:......Bush considering scrapping the IRS TAX CODE!!!!!!

297 posted on 11/06/2002 1:50:10 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
WOW and bump to the National Sales Tax Top!

Thanks for that one.
298 posted on 11/06/2002 2:09:45 PM PST by lodwick
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To: W.
#289...Well W. it HAD to have been your button!!

You saved the day!!!....Got rid of Tommy Terror for us :)))

299 posted on 11/06/2002 2:14:04 PM PST by Guenevere
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society; All
Hello there,

I just want to say that I have tried to keep with this thread as often as I can. It is difficult to read every post. I have to work too! I may have to take a speed reading course. Your thread is terrific and I really appreciate it very much!

You and everyone have been outstanding in every day since I first stumbled in here a few months ago. You have been encouraging and consistent.

Thank you. Thanks to all of you!

Victory sure does taste sweet. I am elated.

-Radix
300 posted on 11/06/2002 2:15:06 PM PST by Radix
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