Deliberations Resume Friday, 8-9-02 In Trial Of David Westerfield (VERDICT WATCH CONTINUES!)

CNN.com ^ | August 9, 2002 | CNN

[FresnoDA]

SAN DIEGO, California (CNN) --A San Diego jury began deliberations Thursday in the trial of David Westerfield, accused of kidnapping and killing 7-year-old Danielle van Dam.

The panel of six men and six women adjourned for the day without reaching a verdict. It is set to resume deliberations Friday.

[the Deejay]

"How many trials have you all known that the jury diliberated over the weekend?'

Very few. It depends on the judge. If a judge is working on a Saturday, sometimes he'll have the jury deliberate.

[bvw]

Seems we had a bright day of peace, followed by a later afternoon of jakes and janes jumping in for a whack to two.

Coincidental with no verdict and the jury in for a long haul. The "we already know he did it!" herd of jackals misses the juicy Westerfield bones they expected to be tossed as a weekend starting treat. Too bad for them. But they does love to bark!

[the Deejay]

It's obvious from their posts, they have little knowledge of all the facts of the case. However, most telling, is they've gotten what they *think* they know from the media.
(So obvious.)

[John Jamieson]

Exactly right Yeti. Do you do PICs?

[Jaded]

Well, it was nice while it lasted. I sometimes think that it's only about 5 people with 25 hats between them.

If these threads have taught me anything, it's to ignore (for the most part) the firecrackers except on the holidays.

[hoosiermama]

Ignoring them helps those of us that are lurking get through the threads much quicker. PLEASE continue to ignore them.

[sunshine state]

I mostly lurk and it is such a pain to have to wade through the nonsense that some people post. It's one thing to have a differing point of view and defend that. When people who haven't been following the trial (and it's obvious from their post that they haven't) get on the thread and say things like "All the evidence points to Westerfield. He's guilty! Cut off his head!" I get really ticked off. So many people have taken this trial very seriously and learned as much as they could and they've shared this knowledge with the rest of us, so that we can discuss and draw conclusions.

All the evidence does not point to DAW IMO. I for one find this case very troubling and I welcome the opportunity to learn more.

[Jaded]

Freep this poll

http://users3.ev1.net/~2ntense/JuryRoom.htm

[hoosiermama]

Well said sunshine!

[The Other Harry]

I will try to drive by Bill Libby's place and report back over the weekend. Good night.

DigiCam?

[FresnoDA]

DIET COKE SPEW...Your post 472...ROFL...

FresnoDA/frr

[John Jamieson]

I did 10 seconds before you posted to me!

Looks like DW's doing well.

There is always more to this case to find. I just noticed the posts on the jacket cleaning date today! Whoops they flaked the wrong jacket!

[the Deejay]

Very well stated indeed! I agree with all you stated 100%.

Do you recall the trial in FL I have mentioned above? The perp's name is Willie Crane. They've yet to find the little girl's body.

Don't lurk. Jump in and converse with us. You have a lot of common sense to contribute.

[FresnoDA]

466 posted on 8/9/02 5:54 PM Pacific by AAABEST

Hey Thrifty Best...I know it is a couple hundred post counts early...but I will break tradition...and present you with the honorary, And highly coveted...THREAD JACKAL 666 award for greatness....

Enjoy....

FresnoDA (as in.....)  hehehe

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Major ritual "sabbat" dates on the Occult/Witchcraft/Satanism calendar.

This date sticks out....February 2, 2002    Danielle Van Dam, Age 7

 

DATE: October 31 NAME: *SAMHAIN; ALL HALLOWS' EVE; HALLOWEEN; NOVEMBER EVE WITCHCRAFT: Rituals to contact the dead SATANISTS: Sexual and blood rituals with animal or humans & animal or human sacrifice

DATE: December 21/22 NAME: YULE; WINTER SOLSTICE; WITCHCRAFT: Rituals celebrating the rebirth of the sun SATANISTS: Sexual rituals, animal or human

DATE: February 2 NAME: IMBOLIC; IMBOK; CANDLEMAS; OIMELE; LADY

DAY; BRIGID DAY WITCHCRAFT: Sexual rituals; Celtic triple goddess Brigid honored. SATANISM: Sexual rituals, human

DATE: MARCH 20/21 NAME: Spring Equinox; Vernal Equinox WITCHCRAFT: This is a fertility sabbat. Pagans celebrate the coming of fertility of the earth; Sexual rituals celebrated by various groups. SATANISM: Orgies held; Animal or human sacrifices

DATE: April 30 NAME: *BELTANE; MAY EVE; ROODMAS DAY; WALPURGISNACHT WITCHCRAFT: Rituals focusing on the love between male & female. In fact, many pagan handcastings (weddings) take place at this sabbat. Rituals celebrating the fertility of the Mother Goddess (Earth) are carried out. SATANISTS: Blood rituals; Animal or human sacrifices

DATE: JUNE 21 NAME: SUMMER SOLSTICE; MIDSUMMER'S EVE; WITCHES: Bonfire rituals SATANISTS: Orgies; Animal or human sacrifices

DATE: AUGUST 1 NAME: LUGNASADH (Named for Celtic Solar god Lugh);LAMMAS DAY WITCHES: Harvest rituals SATANISTS: Animal or Human sacrifice

DATE: SEPTEMBER 21 to 23 (Date varies annually) NAME: AUTUMN EQUINOX WITCHES: Some covens have rituals reenacting Pluto or Hades (grim god of death) forcefully carrying of Persephone (young goddess of life) to the underworld. SATANISTS: Sexual orgies and or animal and human sacrifice.

[Yeti]

Exactly right Yeti. Do you do PICs?

Actually, no. I pump concrete and waterproof.

Sigh.

[the Deejay]

Don't lurk. Join us. I know what you mean about wasting time with the lynch mob/uninformed/media brainwashed posters. An ignore button would save a lot of time. Often I will look to see who posted before I read the post.

[John Jamieson]

Ah, but Brooke L. Rowland from Poway wasn't arrested until near midnight of 2/15...... just after he dumped the body.

[small_l_libertarian]

I know about the Willie Crane case (at least I think this is the right guy). The mom picked him up in a bar and spent the night with him. He stole her daughter and apparently took her to his trailer. Her blood was found in the trailer. You're right - sounds pretty similar to this case on the surface, but Willie Crane is an obvious freak, and two women who said that he molested them as children came forward at the time of his arrest.

[NatureGirl]

I used to take it out of the library. I've watched it several times. I can't get a copy in this town though - the library doesn't have it, neither does the video store. When we get our DVD player, I'll pick it up.

[The Other Harry]

Twelve Angry Men is phony, too, now that I know what jurors cannot do. Remember when Fonda goes out and does his own research by buying a knife? A cannot do. Also, all 12 speculate about how the murder probably happened? A cannot do.

You know, I think those are all things which jurors are supposeded not to do are which they are instructed not to do, but...

I think responsible jurors can actually break many of those "rules", so long as they are legitimately in the process of getting at the truth. Instructions notwithstanding.

I would.