[spetznaz]

The reason i am posting this is i just bumped onto it and i found it quite interesting. Especially since i had been watching this documentary on the History Channel and some of the participants in NASA's space program were swearing to have seen objects that were 'unknowable.'

I am not saying Aliens exist ...but definitely UFOs exist (for example in the 1980s people who saw the B-2 spirit or the F-117 would correctly assert those crafts as genuine UFOs since they were in all respects UFOs to all apart from those who were privy to their existence).

However the above is quite interesting. There is no way to explain the hieroglyphics in that Egyptian temple, and as for the accounts in the Mahabarat and the Ramayana of what seems to be the use of homing missiles and nuclear weapons, as well as the references to various flying devices are rather strange!

And yes, some of this could be meteorites, or even ball lightning.

However in the History Channel program they showed several paintings done in the middle ages where in the background a UFO is clearly depicted. They even showed this account that in one of Alexander the Great's conquests a 'flying object' came from the skies, hovered over this city he was laying siege to, and then fired a projectile of some sort that totally obliterated one side of the wall allowing him to swarm in with his army and conquer the city.'

And then there is the thing that the former USSR and currently Russia have governmental organizations fielded only for the study and documentation of UFO events in that part of the world (they claim they had 'interesting' evidence some years ago).

And then there is this 'evidence' (?) that shows footage taken from a NASA shuttle where some type of 'beam weapon' is being fired out of Australia at several UFOs. The base in Australia turned out to be occupied by the USA when an investigation was carried out, and they were working on some type of particle weapon that used an ionized beam to direct immense voltage at a target. What could all this be (by the way some of that footage was intercepted by ground observers, and since then NASA has been scrambling all its signals).

Anyways i was just wondering what you people think about this.

As to what i think? Hmmm, let me see. Believing in Aliens is said to be the established tardemark for kooks and crankpots, so the most sagacious choice is to do this: I believe it was mass accumulations of swamp gas coupled with electrostatic charges from the aurora borealis. And as for the Egyptian hieroglyphics that is simply the work of some Egyptian artist then who was suffering from terrible athritis causing him to form crooked figures. And moving on to the NASA footage .....let me see. Yep, that is simply meteorites entering the atmosphere, and hitting high density air pockets causing them to change velocity and direction at rapidly changing cadence rates! And the 'beam weapon' is actually the reflection off the flight feathers of migrating birds suddenly diving in unison causing a swash of reflected light to arc up!

Yes. That is my story and i am sticking by it.

Now let me run off and get myself an upgraded tin-foil hat with lace trim and matching ear plugs to prevent my brains getting sucked off through my ears!

[spetznaz]

The website to the NASA footage is as follows (copy and paste):

http://www.qtm.net/~geibdan/videoclips/

[Frank_Discussion]

And how is Richard Hoagland these days?

[First_Salute]

A close examination of the ceiling in this room where I sit, reveals in the plaster --- the plaster's work --- the story of an ancient intergalactic war, after which refugees fled, first to Mars, then to the Moon, and then finally to Earth.

[pt17]

Paging Erich von Däniken. Will Erich von Däniken please answer the tinfoil courtesy phone :-)

[eastforker]

Well I gotta tell ya I do believe that UFO's exist having seen them firsthand and there is alot of ancient literature and paintings that depict them.Who is to say that the human race isn't some big science project since we arrived so late on the scene.No,Iam not a christian yet I am not an athiest.I am also not sure if agnostic fits either.One things for sure,someone sure has alot of splainin to do.

[knighthawk]

The Abydos temple helicopter

The first image is 'cleaned up' and the actual thing looks like this:

":..., I am afraid that you have been subjected to the famous "Abydos helicopter" mania, here. There is a simple explanation to what you are seeing, at least, as we see it in Egyptology. There is no mystery here; it's just a _palimpsest_ (though without the use of that term, and which is defined as "... A manuscript, typically of papyrus or parchment, that has been written on more than once, with the earlier writing incompletely erased and often legible" AHED). It was decided in antiquity to replace the five-fold royal titulary of Seti I with that of his son and successor, Ramesses II. In the photos, we clearly see "Who repulses the Nine Bows," which figures in some of the Two-Ladies names of Seti I, replaced by "Who protects Egypt and overthrows the foreign countries," a Two-Ladies name of Ramesses II. With some of the plaster that once covered Seti I's titulary now fallen away, certain of the superimposed signs do indeed look like a submarine, etc., but it's just a coincidence.
What is happening in the photographs is quite clear; just consult Juergen von Beckerath, Handbuch der aegyptischen Koenigsnamen, Muenchner aegyptologische Studien 20, pages 235 and 237.
This issue comes up from time to time on such academic e-mail lists as the Ancient Near East (ANE) List and so on, so we're all pretty familiar with it. Regards. Katherine Griffis-Greenberg" Member, American Research Center in Egypt International Association of Egyptologists University of Alabama at Birmingham Special Studies

[Jaxter]

[billbears]

tin foil bump for later

[Cleburne]

Gee, you would think those ancient aliens would at least have given us some really weird cool technology instead of stuff that we would come up with on our own a few thousand years later. I mean, who needs atom bombs and gliders? I want some anti-gravity shoes and matter transporters, and a ray gun!

[weikel]

Im going to Cape Cod soon if this thread is still here Ill be very surprised.

[spetznaz]

Vimana.

[NormsRevenge]

Damn that Hystriy Channel !!! [/kiddin']

A little edukashun can be a dangerous thing.. Din't you know we have already been visited years ago. Big Blonde fellas and then some lil gray guys.

Now put the Jerry Springer tapes back on !! Those other fellas will be back soon enough.

:-)

[cactusSharp]

I'll tell ya this.....my father ,a 100 % religious
man,100% of the time, and I saw something one
night,not normal.....in fact ,it flew so wild,no aircraft
could possibly ever do....I said AHAAA you saw that
dad....he said one of his wiser comments back to me
as I challenged the belief of UFO's.....he said
"I'm not saying there are real or NOT,but ...if they
are....you can bet they have the same God you do"
.....worked ofr me.........

[NormsRevenge]

The Orion Mystery

[The Wizard]

I am always amazed at the responses to anything like this......how arrogant we are to think everything begins and ends with this current few thousand years.......

The universe is billions of years old, and I daresay, we have probably had and lost many times over, great civilizations

Remember, the democrats destroy everything for their own benefit, until there is nothing left...

I send this out for true thinkers

[parsifal]

Aliens have definitely visited Earth, and recently.Donald Keyhoe, a Marine colonel, wrote several very good books about this in the late 40's and early 50's. A Military-Industrial coverup. I want to believe. parsy.

[swarthyguy]

I think those Egyptian (were they black) were debunked as fotoshop manipulations a couple of years ago, at least.

[lavaroise]

Why is it NASA cover up? Why not Russians space agencies?

[hattend]

Is that Rare Bear just below and to the right of the helicopter?

More about Rare Bear here

Reno is only 5 weeks away!!!

[farmfriend]

I find it interesting that the UFO's in Israel go up to but do not cross over the Jordanian border.