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UFOs, ancient aircraft, NASA coverup, mumbo-jumbo etc etc (Hmmmmm + tinfoil alert)

Posted on 08/03/2002 7:24:12 AM PDT by spetznaz

Egyptian Temple Wall in Abydos with panel above columns

Egyptian Temple Wall Panel on which the images are raised

Is this an Ancient Helicopter?

Is this an Ancient Aircraft?

Another Ancient Aircraft?

A small model of what has been called a "glider" plane was found in a museum in Cairo. Its body was just over 6" long and its wingspan was a little over 7". Made of light sycamore wood, it would glide a short distance when thrown by hand. Other models of aircraft have been found in Egypt and South America. One of them bears a striking resemblance to a modern delta-winged jet!

Sanskrit texts are filled with references to gods who fought battles in the sky using Vimanas equipped with weapons as deadly as any we can deploy in these more enlightened times. For example, there is a passage in the Ramayana which reads:

"The Puspaka car that resembles the Sun and belongs to my brother was brought by the powerful Ravan; that aerial and excellent car going everywhere at will .... that car resembling a bright cloud in the sky."

".. and the King [Rama] got in, and the excellent car at the command of the Raghira, rose up into the higher atmosphere."

In the Mahabharatra, an ancient Indian poem of enormous length, we learn that an individual named Asura Maya had a Vimana measuring twelve cubits in circumference, with four strong wheels. The poem is a veritable gold mine of information relating to conflicts between gods who settled their differences apparently using weapons as lethal as the ones we are capable of deploying. Apart from 'blazing missiles', the poem records the use of other deadly weapons. 'Indra's Dart' operated via a circular 'reflector'. When switched on, it produced a 'shaft of light' which, when focused on any target, immediately 'consumed it with its power'. In one particular exchange, the hero, Krishna, is pursuing his enemy, Salva, in the sky, when Salva's Vimana, the Saubha is made invisible in some way. Undeterred, Krishna immediately fires off a special weapon: 'I quickly laid on an arrow, which killed by seeking out sound'. Many other terrible weapons are described, quite matter of factly, in the Mahabharata, but the most fearsome of all is the one used against the Vrishis. The narrative records:

"Gurkha flying in his swift and powerful Vimana hurled against the three cities of the Vrishis and Andhakas a single projectile charged with all the power of the Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and fire, as brilliant as ten thousands suns, rose in all its splendour. It was the unknown weapon, the Iron Thunderbolt, a gigantic messaenger of death which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and Andhakas."

It is important to note, that these kinds of records are not isolated. They can be cross-correlated with similiar reports in other ancient civilizations. The after-affects of this Iron Thunderbolt have an ominously recognizable ring. Apparently, those killed by it were so burnt that their corpses were unidentifiable. The survivors fared little etter, as it caused their hair and nails to fall out.

Perhaps the most disturbing and challenging, information about these allegedly mythical Vimanas in the ancient records is that there are some matter-of-fact records, describing how to build one. In their way, the instructions are quite precise.

In the Sanskrit Samarangana Sutradhara, it is written:

"Strong and durable must the body of the Vimana be made, like a great flying bird of light material. Inside one must put the mercury engine with its iron heating apparatus underneath. By means of the power latent in the mecrcury which sets the driving whirlwind in motion, a man sitting inside may travel a great distance in the sky. The movements of the Vimana are such that it can vertically ascend, vertically descend, move slanting forwards and backwards. With the help of the machines human beings can fly in the air and heavenly beings can come down to earth."

The Hakatha (Laws of the Babylonians) states quite unambiguously: "The privilege of operating a flying machine is great. The knowledge of flight is among the most ancient of our inheritances. A gift from 'those from upon high'. We received it from them as a means of saving many lives."


TOPICS: UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: ancientaircraft; godsgravesglyphs; mahabarat; ramayana; strangesightings; ufo; vimana
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To: Cleburne
Actually on the matter of 'anti-grav' shoes, whatever happened to all those promises we were given of how life would be in the year 2000? I remember watching programs like 'Beyond 2000' that showed all this cool 'inventions' that were supposed to make life amazing (read: floating cars, anti-grav skateboards, etc etc).

Yet it is 2002 and the only thing we have even close to such stuff is Ginger, the so called IT scooter!

What happened? Hey, maybe we can all get together and sue the media for giving us false dreams (it might work, after all everyone and their granny seem to be suing all and sundry)!

21 posted on 08/03/2002 7:54:32 AM PDT by spetznaz
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To: weikel
how come?
23 posted on 08/03/2002 7:55:06 AM PDT by spetznaz
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To: Cleburne
I want some anti-gravity shoes and matter transporters, and a ray gun!

I'd prefer a visit from a very pissed-off, liberal-disliking alien with a robot like Gort in "The Day The Earth Stood Still."
24 posted on 08/03/2002 7:55:43 AM PDT by pt17
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To: spetznaz
Vimana.
25 posted on 08/03/2002 7:58:19 AM PDT by spetznaz
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To: Jaxter; spetznaz

See you there...
26 posted on 08/03/2002 8:05:04 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: pt17
Interesting thing about that movie : It was based on a short story called " The Master ".In the story, it was the robot who was the Master. The humanoid alien was just a pet.
27 posted on 08/03/2002 8:09:32 AM PDT by genefromjersey
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To: Cleburne
Gee, you would think those ancient aliens would at least have given us some really weird cool technology instead of stuff that we would come up with on our own a few thousand years later.

How do you know we haven't developed all the before?

The physical nature of the universe would allow certain technological advances in order.

One could even call it technological evolution...

28 posted on 08/03/2002 8:13:52 AM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: spetznaz
Damn that Hystriy Channel !!! [/kiddin']

A little edukashun can be a dangerous thing.. Din't you know we have already been visited years ago. Big Blonde fellas and then some lil gray guys.

Now put the Jerry Springer tapes back on !! Those other fellas will be back soon enough.

:-)
29 posted on 08/03/2002 8:14:18 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: spetznaz
huh? And who is Rich Hoagland?

Richard Hoagland of the famous Face on Mars reports. He is quite famous in the world of the Alien believers. This is very interesting to say the least. I am saving it for my friends who are believers in UFO's and aliens. They will love this.

30 posted on 08/03/2002 8:19:02 AM PDT by ladyinred
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To: spetznaz; ladyinred
" ... swamp gas mixed with the reflections off the feathers of migratory birds ... "

Actually, "I hate to tell ya," that actually is true.

The "secret" is ions in the atmosphere and beyond; it's simple, really. Ions react to electromagnetic influence (and gravity); the result "in the randomness of things," is that people really do see something on occasion.

In the current Era of Super-Electromagnetism, if you will, there is ever-more "junk" being emitted and thence affecting ions in the heavens.

A "holographic effect" is there, serendipitously (sp?).

Yet because of one's perspective, some parties will see what others, "over yonder" will not.

31 posted on 08/03/2002 8:31:34 AM PDT by First_Salute
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To: First_Salute
Explanation please. Thanks.
32 posted on 08/03/2002 8:42:03 AM PDT by spetznaz
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To: spetznaz
I'll tell ya this.....my father ,a 100 % religious
man,100% of the time, and I saw something one
night,not normal.....in fact ,it flew so wild,no aircraft
could possibly ever do....I said AHAAA you saw that
dad....he said one of his wiser comments back to me
as I challenged the belief of UFO's.....he said
"I'm not saying there are real or NOT,but ...if they
are....you can bet they have the same God you do"
.....worked ofr me.........
34 posted on 08/03/2002 8:52:09 AM PDT by cactusSharp
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To: eastforker
No,Iam not a christian yet I am not an athiest.I am also not sure if agnostic fits either.One things for sure,someone sure has alot of splainin to do.

Here's a thought for someone who has not made up their mind...The bible clearly states that "fallen" angels at one time were on the earth "corrupting" man. "When men began to multiply on the face of the ground, and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were fair; and they took to wife such of them as they chose." (Gen 6:1,2) This is, in fact, what eventually led to the flood according to the bible. Is it possible these "sons of God" came to earth in modern fashion?

Flame suit on!

35 posted on 08/03/2002 9:01:21 AM PDT by dubyagee
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To: spetznaz
The Orion Mystery
36 posted on 08/03/2002 9:04:44 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: knighthawk
What is happening in the photographs is quite clear;

I don't agree. The images appear to me to have been intended to be just what they are. Now whether they are intended to be images of modern travel, I don't know. But it's certainly difficult to percieve them as anything else.

37 posted on 08/03/2002 9:06:51 AM PDT by dubyagee
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To: spetznaz
Uh ... that was the explanation?
38 posted on 08/03/2002 9:17:18 AM PDT by First_Salute
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To: spetznaz
I am always amazed at the responses to anything like this......how arrogant we are to think everything begins and ends with this current few thousand years.......

The universe is billions of years old, and I daresay, we have probably had and lost many times over, great civilizations

Remember, the democrats destroy everything for their own benefit, until there is nothing left...

I send this out for true thinkers

39 posted on 08/03/2002 9:25:28 AM PDT by The Wizard
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To: spetznaz
Aliens have definitely visited Earth, and recently.Donald Keyhoe, a Marine colonel, wrote several very good books about this in the late 40's and early 50's. A Military-Industrial coverup. I want to believe. parsy.
40 posted on 08/03/2002 9:27:22 AM PDT by parsifal
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