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Van Dam Case Witness Challenges Findings Of Defense 'Bug Expert': But...His Testimony Don't Add Up..
Union Tribune ^ | July 31, 2002 | Jeff Dillion

Posted on 07/30/2002 3:58:51 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: pinz-n-needlez
We could probably help him out with the missing pj's. Didn't Grandma hold them up at one of the early press conferences?

No, she didn't. Those were Danielle's friend's pj's. They both had been given matching pj's special for a sleepover.

41 posted on 07/30/2002 5:02:00 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: UCANSEE2
Unlike the pizza box that just wouldn't stay empty! It was like those buckets of water in the Sorcerer's Apprentice! lol
42 posted on 07/30/2002 5:02:55 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: cyncooper
Um, yeah, uh-huh, sure. That's what those were.
43 posted on 07/30/2002 5:04:05 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: cyncooper
6 A. WELL, I KNOW THAT THE MAJORITY OF NYLON THAT IS7 PRODUCED IN THE UNITED STATES IS CARPET, AND THAT ABOUT TEN TO8 18 PERCENT IS APPAREL. AND IF THIS IS AN APPAREL FIBER -- IT'S9 DEFINITELY NOT A CARPET FIBER. IF IT'S AN APPAREL FIBER, THEN10 IT COULD BE RELATIVELY COMMON, YES.

Cyn, you keep qouting this. FIRST, her argument goes this way:

If it's not a rock it's an elephant. If it's not an elephant,it's a rock, and they are pretty common.

So, either it is or is not apparel or carpet fiber. And if it IS NOT CARPET FIBER, then it is too common to prove anything at all.

POOF, you now have argued a point which ends up proving absolutely nothing whatsoever. Do you see ?

44 posted on 07/30/2002 5:05:11 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: pinz-n-needlez
Um, yeah, uh-huh, sure. That's what those were.

So now the friend and her parents are lying?

45 posted on 07/30/2002 5:05:48 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
Sometimes ya just got to give up. The next thing you know we'll be hearing that that little friend was part of the VD swinger ring.
46 posted on 07/30/2002 5:06:59 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Those were danielle's best friends pj's..

According to WHO? BRENDA, THE BIG FAT LIAR (proven in court, in front of a jury, sworn on the bible to tell the TRUTH and still lied)

Why did DAMON get this angry look on his face when GRANDMA pulled out the pair of PJ's and held them up, after Damon said Danielle was wearing them??????

What are your thoughts on why he appeared so mad?

47 posted on 07/30/2002 5:07:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: cyncooper
I never suggested anyone is lying here. I'm agreeing with you. Albeit reluctantly. I'm not much for arguments.
48 posted on 07/30/2002 5:08:15 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: cyncooper
Those were Danielle's friend's pj's. They both had been given matching pj's special for a sleepover.

PROVE IT.

49 posted on 07/30/2002 5:08:39 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Spunky
Did they ever find the source of these orange acrylic fibers?

Ya know the thing that girl scouts were around their neck/shoulders for their badges??? Isn't that an orange velvet or something??

50 posted on 07/30/2002 5:09:23 PM PDT by demsux
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To: UCANSEE2
No, I don't agree. She seems to state definitively that it is NOT CARPET.

She says nylon is relatively common as an apparel fiber.

She does not know the source of the fiber.

I say:

The fibers at DW's house and in the MH are similar to the fibers on Danielle van Dam's body---a body that did not have clothes to retain fibers. So how did the fibers get on and around Danielle and in Westerfield's home and motorhome?

As VRWC_minion points out, DW would have showered and changed clothes in his house before driving to the MH. So how did fibers "transfer" from his house to the MH?

How are the fibers around Danielle?

51 posted on 07/30/2002 5:10:59 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Those were danielle's best friends pj's..

And WHO provided that information, that's right, Damon and/or Brenda, confirmed liars...

52 posted on 07/30/2002 5:11:14 PM PDT by demsux
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To: VRWC_minion
Her mom didn't hug her according to the testimony. How did it get there ?

So none of the testimony states that Brenda hugged Danielle that night before going out to Dad's.

BUT DANIELLE NEVER TOOK THAT NECKLACE OFF FOR MONTHS AND I SHOULD HOPE THAT HER MOTHER HUGGED HER AT SOME TIME SO ONE ORANGE FIBER STUCK IN HER NECKLACE COULD HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG, LONG, TIME.

53 posted on 07/30/2002 5:11:36 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: cyncooper
Those were Danielle's friend's pj's. They both had been given matching pj's special for a sleepover.

Sorry, that was rude. OTHER than a known perjurer, a woman that LIED while her daughter had been kidnapped and was killed and who might have saved her life had she not continued to LIE,

Who said that The PJ's that Grandma held up were not Danielle's?

Who said they were this spare pair for the neighbor?

Who testified to such in court?

54 posted on 07/30/2002 5:15:41 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
"BRENDA, THE BIG FAT LIAR "

Is that your answer for everything?

55 posted on 07/30/2002 5:16:56 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: demsux
See #55
56 posted on 07/30/2002 5:17:37 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: pinz-n-needlez
freepmail
57 posted on 07/30/2002 5:18:08 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: cyncooper
You just argued with yourself and lost. I don't have to say anything.
58 posted on 07/30/2002 5:18:15 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Is that your answer for everything?

Whenever you refer to lies Brenda made to cover up for her responsibility in her daughter's disappearance, YES.

59 posted on 07/30/2002 5:19:40 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
You just argued with yourself and lost.

Really? I can think of only one reason those blue fibers would be found on Danielle, in Westerfield's home--including his laundry--, and in his MH.

What's your explanation?

60 posted on 07/30/2002 5:21:39 PM PDT by cyncooper
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