Posted on 05/29/2002 2:38:14 AM PDT by oceanperch
How come no one hs started a condolance(sp) thread for The Levys?
And I guess ridiculing "these Christians" was part of giving your "condolences" to the Levy family?
Real weak...
From "Living Each Week" by Rabbi Abraham J. Twerski, Mesorah Publications, 1992, pp. 281-282:
"And if you do not hearken unto Me . . ." (Leviticus 26:14)
"In many synagogues the reader lowers his voice when he recites the dire consequences that the Torah predicts will occur if Israel disobeys the Divine word. Although this practice is quite common, the Chofetz Chaim was most critical of it. 'Suppose,' the Chofetz Chaim said, 'you were headed toward a path that was full of hidden pits and dangerous obstacles, and someone called to you to caution you against choosing that path and thereby exposing yourself to great danger. How foolish you would be to close your ears to avoid hearing the warning, thereby increasing the likelihood of your being injured. The harsh words of the Torah are a warning given out of Divine care and love for us, to protect us from the destructive consequences of sin. Why should we try to avoid hearing them?'
"The Chofetz Chaim correctly identified a common human trait, one which has repeatedly plagued us. There is a tendency to bury one's head in the sand and make oneself oblivious to reality. The Scriptures are replete with prophetic warnings of expulsion from Israel and the destruction of Jerusalem, to which many people turned a deaf ear, preferring instead the soothing reassurances of the false prophets that all would be well.
"The phenomenon applies to the individual as well as to the nation as a whole. We are often cautioned against certain actions we wish to take, but if we strongly desire to do something, we may render ourselves oblivious to all warnings. Young people are especially prone to ignore the warnings of their elders who recognize some types of youthful behavior as dangerous. The Chofetz Chaim's criticism applies not only to the practice in the synagogue, but to all instances whereby one refuses to listen to warnings that would deter a person from actions that have harmful consequences. How wise we would all be to keep our ears open to warnings."
Say, Mr. Christian Man, my only child, a son 27 years old, died in December of 2000 of accidental carbon monoxide poisoning.
Why do you think YOUR God let him die? Was he EVIL, too?
How about reading on the internet that somebody thinks it was YOUR fault and your kid deserved it?
Why did the Levys hire a lawyer and not a PI? That is a good question which someone started to answer on another thread. He or she said that they probably were seeking to gain influence in DC. That explanation started me on a train of thought. I think the Levys, like their daughter, had unshaken faith in the corrupted ways of DC (without seeing them as being corrupted of course.) You buy yourself influence, you sleep your way to the top, that's how things work, you go along if you want to get along. Most non-FReeper people in this country have learned to accept corruption of our institutions as normal, haven't they?
An influential lawyer is an insider in the swamp, playing by its rules and (maybe) getting things done. A PI is an outsider who doesn't play the insiders' game and hiring a PI would require a healthy dose of cynicism about how things work in DC or in any big American city for that matter. People with a healthy dose of cynicism would not consider sending their daughters to be interns in the swamp in the first place, I think.
My mother died in a head on collision when she was 21. It was her fault because she was driving at night and she fell asleep and passed the median and collided into another car. Her passenger walked away without a scratch. I'm like a hawk with family and friend that drive at night. I'm like a broken record about driving without enough sleep.
My mother caused her own death and G-d did allow my mother's death because He is sovereign. His ways are not our ways.
My son was 27; he wasn't married; I'd bet my house he had had sex.
Not necessarily, but He creates evil and the waster to destroy. He also draws gigantic pictures to show what is happening in lives and in the world. Most are not paying attention. Those few who are paying attention see big things on the horizon. The party's over! The Church is apostate. Most non-Christians outside of the Church can see that. Chandra was the child of apostate Jews. Time's about up and Condit/Levy are a picture. Click on 657 and 690.
Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Isa 54:16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.
Pr 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
>Say, Mr. Christian Man, my only child, a son 27 years old, died in December of 2000 of accidental carbon monoxide poisoning. Why do you think YOUR God let him die? Was he EVIL, too?
A righteous man gets "righteous man's reward." God also takes some to spare them:
Isa 57:1 The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart: and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come.
We cannot know all the reasons the Lord takes people when He does. He can certainly tell who is true and who is false by their fruit and promises to give to every man according to his works. This thread was about Chandra who was a practicing whore and peripherally, Condit, the whoremonger. We can know them by their fruits.
I've had it up to here with your arrogant brand of smug Phariseeism masquarading as pious devotion to God.
The girl died a horrible, barbaric death at the hand of a fellow man. Her parents are in mourning. And, for all we know, she may have died unregenerate, and cast into the fires of hell. And you see fit to rejoice that a sinner dies in her sins??
You should be mourning the passing of a sinner. Instead, you can barely contain your glee. Well, thats not what Christianity is about. Damn your doctrines. They arent from the Bible. Don't forget who you were (or are, if you are not truly converted) -- a sinner saved only by the Soverign Grace of Almighty God.
Lets consider the reaction of Jesus Christ regarding His chosen nation, Isreael (whom Levy, being Jewish, was):
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
-- Matthew 23:37
Jesus Christ mourned the rebellion of His people Israel. He didn't rejoice, "Oh, they're getting theirs!" No, he wept!!! Check this out:
41 ¶ And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,
42 Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.
--Luke 19:42
Finally, remember Ezekiel 18:11
Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Mea maxima culpa.
Clues...
The drivers could not see that there was no road, so they were approaching at regular highway speed (70MPH), only to go airborne and then plunge into the water. As he was watching this he said his first thought was, "No God, no more cars!" Then he saw another semi approaching, and one of the men on the boat fired a flare at the truck. The truck skidded and stopped right at the edge, then he shifted into reverse. The witness said that the scene was a mess, because cars kept hitting the truck from behind.
As he described this, I couldn't help but think of how upset those driver probably were (the ones in the accident behind the truck). I wonder how much their perspective changed, when they realized that the truck kept them from going into the river."
56 posted on 5/28/02 8:23 AM Pacific by Thinkin' Gal ~~ on Town of 2,200 Emptied for Train Derailment: Michigan
Hello? This was a call to repent.
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